is the 12.0 on the kfir c7 even “fair”
not really, it should be 11.7
226,000 players online ANNNNND match making still couldnt pizz down wind and get it right!!
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Nothing will get better unless they change the matchmaker to +0.7 / -0.7
Arguing over 0.3 BR here and there isnt going make any real improvements.
Take the F15a. Has a new number at side of its name. Reality is it fights in the exact same lobbies 99/ 100 it did when 13.0.
1.0 is too much no matter what decompression everyone dreams of that isnt happening anyway…
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Does anybody else noticed a disgusting amount of uptiers lately?
And when I say disgusting I mean it. I played like 25+ battles today and everytime, EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! I got an uptier, ussually full +1.0, sometimes +0.7. This is borderline mathematically impossible!
After hours of suffering I was so angry that I made a decision that I am going to just immediately leave the battle if it was a full uptier. And then the game hit me with a triple combo, 9.3, 10.3, and 5.7 all three of my lineups got a full uptier, and that was the final straw, so I got here to rant.
Did they mess up the match maker? Is this some event grinding “Gaijin special gift” to make us suffer? Did I anger the gods? Am I losing my mind and just tripping? Am I the only one who got cursed?
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I had my first downtier in a very long time the other night, was a pleasant surprise. Now, the aircraft I was in was still totally outclassed even in a full downtier, but it was a nice surprise non-the-less. My experience is ground is not much different. No matter what, its always full uptiers
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Uptiers to me, seem based on the most popular tiers that people play.
So 9.3 is uptiered a lot to 10.3, since there’s simply so many 10.3 vehicles.
7.7/8.0 goes to 8.7 a lot due to the huge 8.7 Soviet lineup.
5.7 goes to 6.7 due to the big 3 all having solid 6.7 lineups etc etc.
10.3 is relatively safe in my eyes, however I have been getting a lot of 11.0 Type 90 spam recently.
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9.3 is the most uptiered BR in the game due to premium spam.
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Stop playing BRs that get blackholed into a perma uptier its that easy if you play 9.X you’re guaranteed to be thrown into 10.X
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You’re not wrong, lately the uptiers seem brutal no matter what BR I play. 7.0 = 8.0, 9.0 = 10.0 etc. I will say that the only way to have some peace and quiet is to wind up with a “botfly” special task, then you will be struggling to get into uptier situations… and yes, I think this is deliberately done by gaijin, and its a pretty crappy thing to do to your player base in my opinion. There should be a way to control the level of uptier you are willing to play. I’d propose the following along with corresponding penalties for the adjustments:
- Players that choose to play up to 1.0 higher should receive a %15 bump in rp and SL
- The default “uptier” should be reduced to .7 higher increment unless the option described above (#1 is selected)
- The player should be able to choose to play at up to only .3br higher but incur a 25% rp & SL penalty
Not only would this improve player moral and keep the matchmaker working quickly, this would also artificially help with BR compression. If people think there is some merit to this idea, I’ll put together a more formal proposal in suggestions.
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Yes agree… thanks to F-5C with its historically inaccurate countermeasures :D
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I like that you said “Lately” lmao .
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playing F5Cs today and the amount of constant uptier to 11.0, 11.3 is very consistent with j7d and PL-5s and sometimes mig23 with r24r how am i supposed to fight against that?
All the people getting the downtiers in those games thank you for your BR choices 😆
That would be exactly the same number as there are of downtiers - and we thank you for making persistent BR choices for us:)
Based on my 13 years of experience, the matchmaker strives to keep your win ratio at 50% so if you’re doing well, you’re going to be constantly uptiered.
So…bad players would be top tier most of time…i so wish this was true…
Like hinted above…the players in the match are all humans…so if you see A LOT of uptiers, there are also A LOT of players on a downtier :)
Either you are choosing very bad nation/BR combos…AND being very unlucky…and/or you are exxagerating a lot…
BTW…common mistake…the BR is calculated considering your BEST VEHICLE in the lineup…not the one you chose to play…
I have been playing 13 years and I play all BRs in all nations and this couldn’t further from the truth. There is no randomness to matchmaking, and the “law of large numbers” proves that Gaijin’s matchmaking logic uses shady algorithms.
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Just curious…you aware that the law you mention would say win ratios would be 50% for everyone just by RNG…
Matchmaking seems RNG to me, and i get my fair share of bad matches…the main reason i have to believe it is i see no reason WHY Giajin should care to annoy someone with deliberate bad matchmaking…when RNG is easier and works…
EVERY MATCH has players at top, middle and bottom tier…if “everyone” is bottom BR, where are the top tier players…none of them can find a forum???