[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Totally agree with the sentiment. I disagree with the BR you’ve stated though. I think you need to get into Heavy and Super heavy to get the full experience. …So depending on the nation I’ve always been around 5.3-7.0… You can make an argument for Russia 7.7 in a down tier. This range also opens up some of the best CAS units. Games in this range are almost always far more competitive with players fielding 3-5 units for each battle. Right around 7.7+ the game shifts gears and becomes something more reminiscent of a first person CQC shooter. **imo.
I think the primary issue here is the monetization model that Gaijin chose…forever on the treadmill of new units to sell. Combine this with real world technology directly setup to counter tanks and you wind up with a situation that cannot be balanced. At this point I think adding more things that shoot in any BR is just going to create more problems than it will solve. I do see room for things like maintenance crews, fuel/resupply, and a more robust game mode that brings airfields into the field of play. To that end, make the announcement for WarThunder2. We could use a graphics engine update, and Gaijin could use a better monetization model that gets them off the balance beam.
That said, the game truly shines from 3.0-7.0 !

It has the same modifiers as 3BM22, that is not long rod APFSDS

WHAT

HOW

go home, you are drunk

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All morning its been taking min 5 mins to find a battle in rb italy 10.7 and france 11.0 it says theres 200k players online are the servers broke or is everyone in russian tanks when i do get in a battle its 10v10!!!

The answer to this question is surprisingly easy to find.

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Well I’ve just been spending the last two weeks grinding the event vehicle.
Only to not be able to get in a game with it. As the terminator has ruined all queue times above 10.0
Cheers for nothing Guijen

The consequences of saying no to 0.7 br matches but adding back to back under br and op russian vehicles.

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Its almost like 80-90% of all high tier players are currently playing one nation…

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I wonder when we start seeing pure Russia v Russia games.

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We already have it in air, I don’t see a problem with adding it to ground. We already have copy paste slop.

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I did manage to get a match like that around 2 days ago, so many BMPTs trying to kill each other

Can they please remove Attica?

lol, this just tells me your definition for overpowered is calibrated way too high in performance.

There are like, actually dozens of these. Maybe 100+

Sure what ever you like. If you think there is +100 OP vehicles at 3.0-5.0br I want to see tanks that are not OP.
I can just say that I don’t have problem with facing really any tank at those BRs.

So just to make sure I’m following your math here: I counted roughly 177 vehicles in the 3.0–5.0 BR range. If “maybe 100+” of those are supposedly OP, that means about two-thirds of the entire bracket is overpowered. At that point, “OP” stops meaning “outlier” and starts meaning “the baseline,” which is a pretty creative redefinition of the term.

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BR and OP doesn’t mean crud in this game anymore.

Matchmaking determines, and as stated - if a tank is permanently up tiered - then its permanently +1 BR than its "Stated BR! its a complete farce! Hence the same is tru - if a player is consistently down tiered by 1BR,., (OP)

It was not clear you were talking about 3.0-5.0. There are overpowered vehicles in that range though.

It was NOT clear the user was talking about 3.0-5.0.

This is probably because I posted this to different topic that talked about 3.0-5.0 being according to that topics OP that range was most balanced and fun in game. This topic was nuked by mod and fused to this one.
So I didn’t specify BR range in my comment.

at least they move topics now and merge instead of deleting like they did for years

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They could at least bother to make that it shows if comment was from merged topic so this wouldn’t happen.

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is the 12.0 on the kfir c7 even “fair”