[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

It’s so much worse at low tier. Like genuinely EVERY game has TU-2s or ju288 or he177s. It’s bad. And apparently it’s also “realistic” that they’re this unkillable (I doubt it)

This analogy makes absolutely zero sense, even to me, but the Avenger is like the Spitfire of tanks. I love them both dearly and they’re so good.

T-90A, T-80UD and ZTZs only ones should go up .3 or .7 higher shouldn’t be same br as M1 Abrams and Leopard 2A4

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A new matchmaking option should be created where you cannot leave after 1 death without incurring penalties

this is already the case, however a crew lock does not matter to most one death leavers because you can just change nation and then queue again for a game. A crew lock to a t58 queuer is not the same as a crew lock to me.

No, I mean how, for example, buy a Chinese prem at 12.0, run through matches as fast as possible just to grind the tt, and refuse to play the free vics that they give you. They run to cap point, get a kill maybe, and then die and leave. Single spawn, maybe do a single useful action, then leave.

Like, make a queue option where you must have a certain number of vehicles to play it. Call it ‘Tactical Ground’, like they did for AIR RB.

god I hate the 7.7s. Genuinely they need buffs if gaijin is going to continue down the bomber DM rework path. British bombers are still bottom of the barrel in everything except payload right now (except for the Lincoln and its folder buddy whom I forgot the name of, which have other flaws that bring them down significantly).

You’re right, the now 11.7 ipm1 is probably the closest thing to near peer adversary.

But notice how the t90a didn’t move at all while most other vehicles did. The most challenging tank that this thing will now see is the 12.0 Ariete’s and the m1a1.

Meanwhile for example, all the m1a1 hc’s and the sa’s have been moved to 12.7. They still have to face off against bvm’s and 2a7’s. They’re given a challenge in an uptier. The t90a has it pretty nice down there still sitting untouched at 11.0. A br which wasn’t necessarily struggling to begin with as it has remained one of Russias more powerful lineups across various br changes and updates.

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I probably don’t need to clarify but given this is the war thunder forums I will anyways, I’m talking about the 7.7mm machine guns. There is literally zero reason to ever fear a british bomber before the lincoln (or I guess that one that gets 2 that replace 2 of the 7.7s). These bombers cannot defend themselves if you are moderately good at being kind of unpredictable.

Even the IPM1 roflstomps the T-90A.

Where they honestly belong. The M1A1 HC and M1A2 have been criminally undertiered for years now.

Because the T-90A was never a super strong vehicle. They had the choice to keep it at it’s current BR or move it to 11.3 and keep it somewhat weakish. They chose the former.

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Elaborate

Somewhat I like the new BR decomression, we needed that, but… still huge poblems are there.
In Air RB too. Most Tornados are still garbage in air rb, AMX too etc.
I try it for more xperience to write the sugestions, but… some are really old problems, what need to correct.

Simple. The IPM1 is better in every way that matters.

Mobility? IPM1 wins by a landslide.
Firepower? easy W for the IPM1 because of the reload.
Gun handling? IPM1 and it’s not even close.
Gun depression? Wait the T-90A has gun depression?

The IPM1 is just a much much much more versatile tank.

I guess play M1 Abrams and Leopard 2A4 like 50+ ton light tanks despite being mbts

playing an MBT doesn’t only revolve around getting shot in the face.

Good players understand this and that is why they will largely prefer tanks like the Leo 2A4 and M1 over the T-90A.

Yeah, I know but having no armor especially the good turret cheek armor which I like using them to parry ATGMs and apfsds works with m1a2s and sepv3 at far distances but having no armor entirely plays like a light tank in general which light tanks in my line up already fill that role makes M1 Abrams kind of useless in what it was for.

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what do you guys think of the new H39 being 8.7 and Lion being 8.7 while the southdakota is 8.3 with same size guns and better armor

You can’t just nitpick what matters and what doesn’t. T90a has better armor, better pen, and better thermals. These are inherently good traits this tank has. Choosing what matters more is an opinion and that’s subjective.

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I’m not choosing that these factors matter more. Mobility, gun handling and reload have simply always been way stronger attributes than armor and penetration.

This has been proven time and time again. If 2 vehicles released at the same time, the vehicle with the better combination of mobility, gun handling and reload/firepower always dominated the other vehicle that only had armor and penetration going for it.