[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

And you also said that “EVERYTHING BUT SOVIET” is getting moved implying that none of the Soviet vehicles will be moved.

“Everything got moved up, so only br numbers are higher especially for 9.3 so you are expected to see the same type of enemies”

In reply to this comment. “Everything” is a figure of speech. If not every single vehicle would be getting moved, which isn’t the case

Nowhere close to “Everything but T-80UD” which is what really happend.

2A4/M1, Vickers Mk.7, T-80B, Arjun and hell I would even rate the Chally Mk.3/DS higher than the T-80UD.

Oh shit I need to look into those, not exactly paying much attention to those state changes, I only remembers it reds out when the charges ares depleted, as for the sensor units I am not sure if it throw a red circle on the hud aside from showing parts being damaged.

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I don’t understand your question. I was talking about going against mig-29’s, early hornets, f-14’s, f-4’s with my bison is totally fine. I would like to balance the game so you don’t go against far superior technology. Like ARH missiles against SARH missiles.

They can never make me hate you, Cromwell I. Your reload too fast, your mobility too clean.

Coming back to this, it’s VERY funny that the M55 and the Cromwell I are the same BR. Like they’re entirely different kinds of vehicles with very different playstyles but the Cromwell can fire and reload 7+ times in the time it takes the M55 to reload once, which is just funny to me.

Ok, so what about the Su-27 Flanker

I love getting pilot sniped from behind because gaijin can make literally anything broken in a gameplay sense and still give britain literally fucking nothing.
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Wow I sure do love abusing the bomber DMs except I fucking CAN’T. BECAUSE I have a bulbous fucking weakspot on the back of my thing and bomber turrets are apparently the actual fucking worst things to aim ever.

@Yubel2

Your conquerer can go eat shit now, might want to shelf it until the compression kicks in.

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Better yet, be a good hivemind player and queue the ju288 in air battles

These are some of the weirdest ground br changes ever.

Please, take this as a rant, FIX THE MATCH MAKER!!!

中国科技树高级载具 96B 12.0BR完全不平衡,我有m1hc也有T80UE1,相比这两款高级载具96B充其量就是一个现代版地狱猫,各项表现平庸为什么会被放到12.0BR?

中国科技树F104G更是不平衡,10.7找不到任何优势,没有干扰措施,mig23-ML的BR是11.7,F104G的RWR甚至看不到mig23锁定,碰到就是吃R24R,炸战区飞又飞不过幼狮,除了炸弹落点提示和导弹是AIM-9J相对美国科技书F104C还有其他区别吗?F104C 9.7 F104G 10.7? 你们用屁股定BR的吗?

Dear Developers and Community Managers,

I am writing to provide constructive feedback regarding the recent Battle Rating (BR) decompression and its severe impact on specific Rank VII and VIII vehicles, particularly looking at the Strv 121B Christian II (alongside other Leopard 2A4-based platforms) and the T-80U-E1.

Please note that while this post focuses on these two specific platforms, they are intended as prominent examples of a wider, systemic issue. Multiple other vehicles across various nations—both premium and tech-tree variants—are currently suffering from the exact same balancing oversight following the recent BR shifts.

While the goal of BR decompression to achieve a fairer matchmaking environment is highly appreciated, the current implementation has left these vehicles in a highly disadvantaged state due to a major disparity in firepower and armor compression compared to their new peers.

The Firepower and Armor Disparity
Following their recent BR increases, these vehicles now regularly face top-tier main battle tanks (MBTs) with highly advanced kinetic protection. However, their available ammunition has not been updated to match their new operational environments:

  • Strv 121B Christian II (and related 2A4 platforms): Currently locked to the outdated DM23 shell (~410mm penetration). At its current BR, it consistently faces heavy composite armor and advanced ERA packages. Frontally, DM23 struggles immensely against almost every equal or higher-BR opponent, turning frontal engagements into a severe disadvantage. Furthermore, unlike the tech-tree Strv 122 variants, the Christian II lacks any additional hull or turret wedge armor, leaving it with the baseline protection of a standard Leopard 2A4.

  • T-80U-E1: This vehicle is currently limited to the older 3BM46 round. Facing the absolute top-tier MBTs due to upticks, the penetration value of 3BM46 is often insufficient to reliably counter western turret fronts. Unlike top-tier Russian counterparts (T-90M, T-80BVM) which utilize Relikt ERA and 3BM60, the T-80U-E1 relies on Kontakt-5, making it significantly more vulnerable while lacking the firepower to punch back effectively.

Comparison to Peer Competitors
To highlight the inconsistency in the current balancing logic, we can look at other Premium vehicles in similar brackets, such as the Chinese ZTZ96A (P).Despite its favorable matchmaking positioning, the ZTZ96A (P) is equipped with the highly potent DTC10-125 shell, offering roughly 570mm of penetration combined with advanced FY-4 ERA protection. This creates a massive performance gap where certain premium vehicles retain excellent, competitive firepower and armor layouts, while the Christian II and T-80U-E1 are left with inadequate tools for their respective brackets.

Constructive Proposals for Rebalancing
To ensure these assets remain competitive, rewarding, and balanced for the player base without breaking the game’s meta, I propose the following adjustments:
Ammunition Upgrades (Firepower Buff):

  • For the Strv 121B Christian II (and related Leopard 2A4 variants): Provide access to the DM33 kinetic round. This would bring its firepower in line with other comparable western MBTs at this tier and allow it to reliably target weak spots.

  • For the T-80U-E1: Grant access to the 3BM60 “Svinets-2” shell. Historical documentation regarding the modernization of the T-80U loading mechanisms supports the capability to chamber longer projectiles, making this both a historically plausible and balance-necessary change.

Statistical Performance Review: If ammunition upgrades are not feasible, we kindly request the development team to closely monitor the fast-dropping win-rates and K/D ratios of these affected vehicles post-decompression and consider a minor reduction of their Battle Ratings in the next minor balancing pass.

Premium and high-tier vehicles represent a significant investment of time and resources by the community. Ensuring they retain a fair, balanced, and competitive standing within the evolving matchmaker is vital for keeping the gameplay experience rewarding.

Thank you for your time and for considering this feedback.

Best regards,
Ka_Booomska

WW2 7.7 and below needs decompression so bad its not even funny

im sorry what?
you want me to play in buccaneer S.2B and F-111F against not only pancir but also the buk-m3?
because you think the buk is way worse than sky sabre? yea sure it might not be the best at close range but still.
so you want me to go with 3/4 bombs/missiles (the F111 doesnt even have arms only tv bombs) against buk and pancir that will just laugh the moment they see me? ok sure i maybe will be able to kill them from laugh.

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britain 10.7 used to be a top line up now its just ruined

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also strela 10.7 and what plane do you expect to beat it? oh yea the A-7D that is 11.0 and has 6 mavericks+2 tv bombs
also the hawks are now 11.3 in comparison that are useless to the A7D cuz of weaker engine, WAY lower armament count and ammo count for guns (A7D has 2 gun pods and also 2 missiles on top of all the things earlier)
and the hawks and A-10 are on the same br in GRB… why? it has double almost everything except speed

this is the worst made decompression for now