[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

The literal first thing I always tell people to change
is the damn ALT bind

Ok. Then explain how anyone ever learned to play any game ever. You see, there are always a first group of people to learn a game and no one to farm them. If farming and bullying are required then how does anyone ever learn to play any game? Your statement is pure nonsense.

What obvious consequences? Name a single game that hasn’t seen an increase in player count after the introduction of an SBMM? I’m not asking about your personal enjoyment of that game. I’m asking about the total number of people actively playing.
You see, the WT player count has stagnated. That’s the primary reason for Gaijin constantly dropping OP premium vehicles. They are in business to make money. Their investors expect growing profits. The unavoidable fact is that a small group in the WT player-base drive potential paying customers away from the game daily. This simple reason is why a SBMM is inevitable even if you don’t like it.

Did Harriers get nerfed? WEP greys out after a few mins

After that harrier turns into supernova and then becomes another black hole

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xD

The Harrier might as well just be deleted from the game at this point. I like off meta vics but now it has no power on top of all its other issues

the only time ive had a good time being competitive in a harrier was when nuclear thunder had the BR brackets so that 11.3 planes cant see anything over 11.7. the T10 was pretty fun in that mode. In every other situation, id rather be in a venom or something else horrendously overtiered to the point of uselessness

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Hey joker, you know what happens? A few people will inevitably start to get REALLY good at dumpstering their opponents and move up to better and more challenging lobbies. Also not to be that guy but
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you would be in the bottom echelon, which is impressive because you mainly play soviet tanks. Play a KV-1 and farm your stats up before talking about a matchmaker when your main gamemode doesn’t even have one that’s visibly accessible to anyone not looking for it (Air SB). Fucking Team Fortress 2 Casual mode has a hidden elo ranking for gods sake. SBMMs work, it’s just a fact.

And to go back to your original point, in what universe would literally every player remain at the exact same skill level. This would require people to continue doing the same things over and over forever instead of trying new things to see if that makes their games better. Sure, some people will do that and they will stay in the lower skill lobbies, but a lot of people are going to improve over time and, in your kind’s words, “git gud”.

doing this to the kv-1 would fix low tier

And night attack had 4 jsows with big range and “stealth”. Easy money and rp

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Played a bit of the AV8B plus today and did OK spamming fox 3. Not having enough WEP to even last 1 dogfight is where i gave up.

AV8 and even the GR7 used to be pretty fun too but I guess they all got nerfed? Harriers with WEP are still struggling dont get me wrong but they were usuable


I am always glad i can be practice target in battles against rusian and china hoaxers, wh enough, of course above 75% of the battles +1br against (playing 6,7)… You are so annoying gaijin.
Also 50%+ one cap craps…

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Linear is not that good, comparison makes more sense

Bell curve

Should we tell him?


This is data from Jul 2025 till now of the recently played vehicles.

So I have to be a stat padder to talk about the mm crazy stuff I’m reading here, I haven’t even been seriously playing Air SB for a whole year or two lmao I just play the game, the only reason I played top tier so much was when I was trying to get ace.

I would say both AMXs should be max 10.7 in both modes, they lack the ARMs of the A-6 at the BR while carrying less guided munitions and no air to ground munitions.
Look at the F-4E for example sure it may lack laser guided munitions but it has speed, ARMs and Optical munitions, the AGM-65 being the best.
The A-7s sitting at 10.3 and 10.7 have better air to ground loads compared to the AMXs and have ARMs well the naval one does.
The Su-25T at 11.3 in ground is far more capable than the A-1A, the ARMs, optical missiles and the Vikhrs, with IRCCM R-73s.
Tornado GR.1 yet again ARMs, speed, fire and forget munitions.
At least the A-10s have an absurd amount of flares to help.
The J-22M1A has the choice of 3 fire and forget missile types (the SACLOS and MACLOS and optical missiles still have their icons mixed up) 4 long range TV bombs and 5 GPS bombs.

Gaijin says they don’t use player stats for BRs but what else could be the cause for the absurd BRs, the TT one lost the radar slave for 9Ls so that can’t be the reason, both can carry a max of 6 LGBs and no AGMs, lack ARMs, they have some speed, but at the BRs they stand at that means nothing for an attacker.

So what is the reason they sit where they are at.

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I’m playing the American 4.0 Galiope, but in literally every match I’m up against 5.0s. Does anyone have an explanation for this? When I play other nations at 4.0, I at least get a chance to be top-tier every few games. Is there a logical explanation, or has something changed with the matchmaking?

Logical explanation is = game just dying. And you will always play against china/ru +1br wallhackers so i do only recommend just uninstall and forgot. Or find other mode, because ground is just uptiering and with weird behaviour all the time…

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Its death from a thousand cuts. War thunder is somehow the best and the worst game Iv ever played

Luckily theres a new game about to drop with helis, tanks- all the toys and iv not hear 1 bad thing about it.

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I am mostly pilot but i used to enjoy tanks also in the back. Now it is just broken in every way, mostly because of BR spread and nonsense meetup. And % of hoaxers around is just big laugh from gaijin to us.

i dont see it so negative i love this game and i have often very good rounds…but in this case, im suprised

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You’re in a BR where there’s a BR that’s way more popular than the one you’re at

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