[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

It has often been suggested on this forum that playing 5.7 (Germany) pulls you UP to fight 6.7 enemies.

It’s not a german or BR problem. Whatever BR you queue for, you’re going to get uptiered constantly. Despite the fact that most of these BRs have more than enough players to fill an appropriately BR’d game. You queue 5.7 you play 6.7 games. Queueing for 6.7 you better be prepared to fight the Maus! 7.7 and 8.7 may as well be the same BR at this point with how many uptiers you’re getting. This is especially frustrating for churchill enjoyers like myself because holy fucking shit the Churchill 3 gets 5.0 games CONSTANTLY

I wasn’t suggesting Germany is the only nation that gets sucked up to 6.7.
It just happens to be a popular one.

But my point was, the Tigers (E, H) are getting uptiered at least, if not more, than the 4.7 vehicles (like Churchills) they are facing. At least that’s the “word on the street”.

it’s near constant for everyone, slopTiger players are just more numerous than churchill players so they drown out the discourse

The word is correct

MM is 100% rigged.

Before 14.7 air. Playing 13.7 was downtiers for days.
14.7 only added to save premium flankers. Players rejoice as decompression… reality is 13.7 now plays top tier all day.

When 14.0 was TT…
Playing 13.0- 14 was mixed. As many uptiers as down, it was great as no + 0.7 (14.7) to rig the games.

I never could get convinced big map glazers are these kind of players who cannot make kills without “realistic” selfie stick making these interactions between players uncounterable


Fym mid round, it has better gun than the 2A4, same or better armor

these maps are what I refer to as sniperslop. it’s all sightline, very little cover, and fucking ginormous. they are not good.

what do I suppose to do against premium USS Iowa(Maryland) which has better gun than Iowa with my USS Wyoming? What kind of brain arranged these naval BRs

Abrams is love, abrams is life.

What’s not to love about a fast tank, with great reload, good armour and M829A3

That i have to face them, they also move in herds as i dont think ive met an abrams by itself so far. Ill shoot the breach out of one and then the the pokes round the corner and finishes me off.

Hoard tactics work at top tier suprisngly well.

I’d say move to realistic but I also don’t have the brain for naval realistic so I guess just win the engagement:tm:

Since most players play solo, horde tactics are great for overwhelming loners by themselves

My go to strat is to stick with the bmpt players, there as dumb as two rocks but they can sure tank alot of damage.

When are the CR2s coming down in BR Gaijin…You cannot pretend after all the nerfs they are still top tier?

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I maintain the churchill 7 is still mid.

Im just hoping it doesnt get moved up, or at least not by much. This IS a good game of mine but it certainly isnt mid by any means.

People just dont know where to shoot you is all, the roof can be penned by pretty much anything at the br or even bellow.

I’ve had good games in the 7 (though not 11 kills good I think I’m playing it far too aggressively) but I’ve also had a lot of 1:1 games and even 0:2 games. My best games in the 7 are games where I’m not shooting at soviet shit all the time. Generally on city maps (or fire arc without snipers[which is unironically fun btw]). You’re stupidly weak to panthers, panzer 4s can easily fuck you if they’re remotely good. The tank is much better than it was before the update, but at the end of the day it’s still a Churchill and it’s going to become completely useless if it’s moved up. This is NOT the black prince, this is an upgrade to the NA75.

Dear Gaijin: for the love of FUCK stop doing pages of history events with low tier soviets. I want the giant trophy for each part, I shouldn’t have to suffer through 5.0 uptiers with tank guns that are only passable at 3.7. Stop making me play worse Cromwells. The Cromwell is better than the t-34 in every way that actually matters. Mobility is better, armor doesn’t matter because you die if you’re penned anyway, gun is better, reload is substantially better, gun handling is better. The Cromwell has the ability to actually play the game on hilly maps. Genuinely I’d rather have a british 6 pounder than the god awful soviet 76.

im with QTip_44. Some tanks are awful with their rotation, but would be pretty good if they had more than what they currently have. Think M10 GMC, Pvkv IV. Both have abysmal turret rotation speeds (3.1 with the upgrade and 4.5 with an aced crew) but have decent firepower and SOME protection (M10 being a 76mm, and Pvkv IV having APDS and APHEBC), which make them incredible powerful at both their Battle Rating and even at higher Battle Ratings (Sweden isn’t a good pick, a lot of early vehicles there get 3,7cm APDS, 7,5cm APDS). You can realistically bring the M10 all the way up to 6.0 or higher depending on skill level. the M4A3 (105) is another example, having attrociously slow turret rotation (6 degrees a second aced) yet a powerful howitzer that can kill a tiger frontally at any range