[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

I’m only commenting upon vehicles I have played enough to be able to say something with confidence. I’m pretty sure that the 2s38 is under tiered but I don’t own it. I’m only mentioning things I own and have spaded.

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You can just look at it and its placement and know it is undertiered. HSTVL is its closest equal and that’s 11.7, over a whole BR difference

Like I said, I agree with you, it’s just I like to get personal experience to verify what I expect from the stat cards before making definitive statements.

You may as well claim the HSTV-L should be 10.3

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oh hell no, thats in the right spot. its the 2s38 that’s in the wrong spot

My point is you’re implying the 2S38 and HSTV-L are equals without considering what places these vehicles at their respective BRs.

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HSTVL is balanced. Spammy dart canon faces top tier.

2s38 is russian premium and likely one of the biggest money milkers for gaijin as its so OP

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I agree

Non-sequitur, its status as a premium in War Thunder has nothing to do with the real life characteristics of the vehicle

I mean a russian built anti aircraft prototype made into the best premium light tank in a russian game does raise questions about its balancing. It would still rock at 11.3 but hey I’m just a player who deals with the imbalance what do I know

bruh that tank would have shot the turret to mars irl lol… nothing is stopped that round in the side of an mbt. All ap rounds have that issue

They don’t care ,they never cared ,they will never care
If they did it would be so easy to fix
Simply put empty BR between WWII tanks/planes and Cold war ones …in same way empty BR between Cold War and Modern era.

But that would mean less money since they couldn’t deliberately undertier premium vehicles to reward those that are addicted to “Look at my K/D ,isn’t i amazing”.

So keep typing ,once they count money from sales of latest undertiered premium vehicles and bias ones …they will read your posts and have great laugh about it.

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i always bring the m1128 at 12.0 and it performs well, so yeah 10.7 won’t hurt it lol

You bring the wolfpack because it gives a discount for jets and helicopter, period. If gaijin suddenly decides to remove spotting discount, no one plays 10.3 vehicle at the top tier. I also use it to spawn 500 point full f15e.

i use it because i like it, i usually switch the vehicle in the light tank slot because i want to play with something specific like the m3a3, stryker or hstvl : )

Im unsure if you mean trials or tested as in used in real life scenarios.

If the latter than i suggest searching videos of Syrian rebels using them, the Kurdish groups using them and most recently the conflict in Gaza. In syria t72 was detroyed, the kurdhish destroyed an iraqi Abrams and 2 namer apcs one with aps being bypassed. This is the Hj-8 missle. i took this off wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt, the gaza one i have seen the videos so i can confirm, i am unsure about the rest.

Holy copium.

If you have a source for it, bug report it.

Reload rate is used as a balancing tool. Not to mention that a lot of WW2 and early cold war vehicles don’t have their fastest possible reload. Shermans with 75 and 76 mm guns were stated to have a max reload of 20 RPM, and stuff like Centurions could reload way faster (search up “Bang On, Always!”, specifically look at the 1 minute mark).

Again, if the armor is wrong and you have proof, bug report it.

Same, again.

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Nothing in testing after WW2 could penetrate a Jagdtigers front glacis.

I see new changes of BR. Hunter f.58 (Swiss) go to 10.0 - after 70 battles 95% of battles was on 10.7, full downtier i saw once. Now it is going fight always with supersonic planes. Great move :)

Hunter to 10.0, whilst J35 A a Mach 2 plane more manoeuvrable than MiG21 goes down to 9.3. Makes great sense.

About that,
As much as it doesn’t makes sense… see the toolkit.
Hunter has CMs and good missiles. J35A is pure flight performance and can be countered by most IR that are not AIM-9B/R-3S.
Now even if you try and pull the rockets trick in J35A, you have 6 and you mess the performance…