I would except I’m saving my SLs for the next crate because I’m copium going to get the Black Prince from it
are there any settings I can change to make aircraft audio remotely usable for determining where an aircraft is or is this just a headphone diff
Get better headphones, can 100% recommend as i went from guessing to knowing the exact location of tanks off by sound (when it works anyway).
I would recommend sound mods but at the minute it makes your game REALLY unstable.
for tanks my headphones are fine this is an aircraft issue
in the newest update, rafale’s flight model got nerfed with more drag. why? why are we nerfing planes to make them unfun? i want to see the proof that rafale, in the real world, does indeed have that added drag. you can’t just keep artificially nerfing planes for… god knows why.
same with the mig 29’s. its severely underperforming. i don’t know if it’s too old and not top tier people aren’t complaining that much more about it, but i don’t see the point.
you want to call it “balancing”? then how is j15t 14.7? 48 countermeasures, not the best flanker flight model, definitely mid for top tier. mid engines, bad acceleration and climb. no 360 rwr coverage, standart 140 degree radar. the missiles it has, pl12 and pl12a, which was also nerfed, can quite literally be rolled away under the right circumstances, mid range and definitely almost one of the worst pulling missiles, so not a dogfight missile.
but, the f15c golden eagle is 14.3? let me get this clear, it has 12 amraam’s, more than j15t’s fox 3 pylons, it has INSANE acceleration and climb, its flight model isn’t bad, it has almost infinite countermeasures, the range on the amraam’s is arguably the best. how is it 14.3?? it should definitely be 14.7.
the new premium f16 in the french tree. its 13.7. there’s also the exact same f16 in the tech tree, belgium one. the premium f16 gets access to HMD, at the same exact br, while the tech tree, the f16 that you do not pay the money for, does not get radar hmd. either take the radar hmd off the premium f16, or give it to the tech tree f16. its flat out premium bias. both the belgium and dutch f16 has jhmcs, both of them. but in game? if you want to use the hmd that it has in real life and should in war thunder, you have to pay 80 dollars to buy a premium aircraft you already grinded the exact same of.
back to my main topic, i’m still going to assume rafale was nerfed because of “balancing” and no actual real world proof that it has the added drag in real life. how is it balancing? then nerf the typhoons. eurofighters have 200 degree radar and a better MAWS system, better engines and better flight model. it can carry 8 amraam’s and 2 additional fox 2’s. it has more countermeasures than the rafale. sure, it might be like this in the real world, but then nerf it too if we’re just gonna artifically nerf everything based on absolutely nothing.
my point here isn’t to nerf vehicles, i think this nerfs because of balancing should stop and i actually think that the added drag on the rafale should be removed. i know this sounds like a rant, because it is, but this has to stop one way or another, and i want it soon.
Because a user submitted that the Rafale’s supercruise figure was incorrect so it was reduced from Mach 1.4 supercruise. It was reduced on the basis of historical performance and not game balance, even though I believe the report to ultimately be incorrect, you can find the report here: Rafale supercruise incorrect // Gaijin.net // Issues
Also we have a dedicated thread for the Rafale here:
Simple, it was an overperforming pos
It needed nerfs.
Unfortunately it’s one of the more realistically modelled airframes.
but hey, MiG-29KR is right there
Legit a competitor for top 5 duel plane possibly
It’s not 14.7 because every 14.7 (besides J-15T) completely fiddles it
it’s also a little worse than the Su-30SM/MKM which can’t go up due to Su-30SM2
TLDR: Compression, solution is to decompress.
Compression and gaijin’s lovely sense of humour
Are you seriously complaining about the most handholdy top tier plane getting nerfed?
You need to actually read. His problem is with what he perceives as an artificial balancing decision when it never was one in the first place.
i know it shows “bug report here 3” but i can only open the supercruise bug report, which isn’t what i complained about. could be and probably is my fault, not sure.
and how do you think rafale needed a nerf? just because you don’t like it? every top tier plane in the game pulls way more g’s than they can. there’s no way you’re getting in an f16 and pull 12g’s in real life. i don’t have the eurofighter typhoon, so i’m not gonna comment on what i don’t know. where in god’s green earth is that realistic? rafale can just pull better, simple facts.
i’m not saying the rafale is COMPLETELY ruined and unplayable.i still play it. i like it more than the su30sm2. still a very strong plane. but nerfing an aircraft ruins the way people enjoy it. this didn’t ruin it. but what stops it from being ruined by more and more artificial adjustments? not just the rafale, any plane. i’m complaining about flight models in general, not JUST the rafale, but mainly highlighting it because it’s the most recent one.
f15c golden eagle is worse than the su30sm? the one with engines that have less power than the su27sm? it’s atleast arguable if you said “it has 270 degree radar” for the sm2, but not for the sm. it has 12 fox 3’s, f15c has 12 fox 3’s. but f15 can get insane amounts of energy, speed and altitude. su 30sm cant. f15c has trillions of countermeasures. su30sm doesnt. i’m sorry, but there’s no way su30sm is better than the f15c in any way. but i don’t think i can explain it to you in any way that you’ll get or have a discussion about, since you “frankly don’t care” anyway.
It’s directly related to the drag nerf.
No
It’s simply completely skill-less to play
it is absurd
In fact, playing it for the free ace
made me worse at the game
because it’s that handholdy
Yes
worse missile load
I vastly prefer the 12 Fox-3 loadout + optional R-27ER and 2 R-73 over 12 amraams (It’s kinda objectively better ngl)
both have somewhat anemic airframes for the br
98x large caliber countermeasures is solid for top tier
The aircraft has a physically impossible lack of drag at high alt
Seriously, that thing turns and loses no speed at all, and just doesnt stop accelerating, equivalents like the Typhoon hit a brick wall of drag the moment they go above about Mach 1.1. The Rafale is something like 3x faster at accelerating from low speed to high supersonic than either the F-15s or Typhoon. When a Typhoon defends at high alt, it looses around 0.2-0.3 mach every single time, Rafale loose like 0.05 mach at most.
Im of the opinion that it needs more drag than what it got or everything else needs a drag reduction.
You mean like the BOL being artificially nerfed (Chaff is around 4-5x weaker than it should be and the flares are approx 3-4x weaker than they should be) , the FM far weaker than it should be, the massively restricted A2G loadout, the weak as hell A2A missiles, the training belts in the gun, the buggy as hell cockpit, etc etc.
let alone all the missing P4E upgrades like instead of the recently reduced 32 LCMs, the AESA should have 150 LCMs
You do know the Typhoon has been massively artificially nerfed since day one. Right?
Let’s not forget the hilariously stupid rudder instructor
Euro wobble be like:
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Yeah, its a bit better but still got a long way to go
You mean like the BOL being artificially nerfed (Chaff is around 4-5x weaker than it should be and the flares are approx 3-4x weaker than they should be) , the FM far weaker than it should be, the massively restricted A2G loadout, the weak as hell A2A missiles, the training belts in the gun, the buggy as hell cockpit, etc etc. let alone all the missing P4E upgrades like instead of the recently reduced 32 LCMs, the AESA should have 150 LCMs You do know the Typhoon has been massively artificially nerfed since day one. Right?
exactly what i’m talking about. artificial nerfs. as i’ve mentioned in my replies before, i don’t have the typhoon which is why i didn’t ‘mostly’ comment on it, didn’t know it lost that much speed while defending because i assumed its superior engines let it stay at mach hell forever.
You do know the Typhoon has been massively artificially nerfed since day one. Right?
nope, didn’t know.
though maybe not the “weak as hell a2a” missiles, since c-5 is the longest range missile asides from the d even though not an aam4, since it can’t pull. mica is a short range missile, which can be launched from 30-35km’s at mach 2 and 9500 meters at the start of the game. imagine an amraam doing the same but better.
straying way off course, my point remains about artificial nerfs in general, with rafale’s recent airframe change and mig 29’s. i am strongly against it. why does rafale have 8 mica’s? f3 variant should have 6. but are we giving the f16’s double pylons to carry more air to air missiles? no. does the f14d carry amraams? no. is it a premium? of course. is the added premium f16 better than the tech tree f16? yep. both quite literally have jhmcs historically, i have no idea what justifies them to not add it to the tech tree version, other than not paying money for it.
Reporting this because I hurt your feelings is really funny ngl
are you serious lmfao what would bro report that for
Yeah, nope, the Rafale has stupidly little drag, the Typhoon should be the superior high alt aircraft, its not.
Though I wouldnt call the Rafale Drag nerfs “artifiical balancing nerfs” as I would say that it was and still overperforming in that regard.
Range means basically nothing, The most I routinely fire C5s from is 20-25km, even go mach 1.5+. I might try a longer range shot, like 35-40km, but they rarely hit.
Shorter range performance is king, and that is MICA and R-77-1 by a notable margin.
Do you have any evidence the change was wrong though?
It definetly had too little drag and probably still does now.
Yes, it got an artifiical buff that it didnt need at the time.
Never had any IRL.
so rafale shouldn’t have 8 mica’s?? it had the potential to carry it. then lets remove planes like the mirage 4000 and xp 50. never entered service. infact, the only xp 50 that was ever made blew up somehow outside of combat, which i don’t remember how.
No, it should have been restricted to 6, especially when it was just steamrolling for the entirety of 2025. Would ahve then made sense to add the F4 this last december with 8, now its kinda a semi pointless addition.
Also shouldnt have gotten HMD either.
It was meant for whoever reported it
idc who it was
C-5 has slightly better range perf than D does actually (D is essentially just a C-5 with bigger battery, making it heavier)