[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Where people will have the opportunity of killing u. And rather consistently.

They still are. Not as big of one, yes but still a downside. Also not being able to BVR at all hurts.

I am not saying it isn’t better than SMT, but it is also worse than every other 13.7 by roughly the same margin if not more.

MatchMaking - Completely fair,.
Not calculated
Not fixed in any way possible
Based on BR’s only
Based on Nations to match make¬!

HMMMMMMMMMMM Russian and Germany constantly being put together AND full +1BR uptieres regardless of the BR and nation selected!
EVERY SINGLE MATCH!!! Id say thats rather calculated and manipulated, but hey! What do I know ehh!!! Just because its happening, doesnt mean a thing RIGHT???

Sick and tired of this complete and utter ingame bias and manipulation of matches… its disgusting!

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We really need a massive decompression right now like bad

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For example F15A SU-33 SU-27 MIG-29G and some mirage variants around this br could move to maybe same with like Jas39a. current 13.7s like F16C F15C SU-27SM all need to move to 15.0 while things like F15E Eurofighter and raphale need to be 16.0 as in what way shape or Form is A F-4J fair when pinned against SU-33 why ???

obvisouly everything else needs rework like T26E5 6.7 vs 5.7 T34-85

There is not a 1.0 BR difference between 13.7s and 14.0s. There’s at most an 0.7 BR difference between them.

13.0 also needs to be split into 2 groups, because the F-4F ice, Tornado, Su-27, and F-15A are all better than any other 13.0.

Also the Mig-29G isn’t that good, especially since the flankers are objectively better at the same BR.

something else REALLY op i came across M304 90mm APCR can pen angles 76 and 85mm apcr cant

M304 can pen the front plate of a panther and its on tanks at 5.3

I agreed up until you say ignorant things such as “copium”

In game, there is a lot of USA, Germany, UK, French, Japanese, and Israel tanks that get the better or best possible reloads.

Have you seen the M-51? 400mm pen heat fs with a 6.0 sec reload?

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German M41 bull dog is so annoying you gotta use apcr till you get rank 3 mods
while everyone else gets m339 solid shot

It’s also the lowest BR and first M41 to get HEAT-FS, and turret smoke launchers.
The T92 light tank also starts with APCR with APDS being a rank 3 mod.

Copium in this case is neither ignorant nor unwarranted.

Everything he said is categorically and provably false except for the reload rate claim, since that can vary significantly from loader to loader. This was nothing but the unchecked wet dreams of a Russian main.
That’s why I told him to bug report it. It’s also the reason why he did no such bug reports, and why he did not reply further. I used “copium” very, very specifically here.

There’s also a lot of USA, Germany, UK, French, Japanese, and Israel tanks that don’t get the better or best possible reloads.

I don’t even play top tier yet I have heard countless times how the Leclerc autoloader can reload at 4 seconds (albeit at the possibility of damage), how there are videos of the Type 10 doing 3 second reloads, how an Abrams loader did an average of 2 to 3 seconds emptying all rounds. Plus the examples I gave of the M4 Sherman (there is at least one in every tech tree) and Centurion (a lot of those as well). I could go on with examples of the M26E1 (somehow reloads slower than a T-44-100), the T-54/55s (somehow have the same reload as the M47, and the M48 is only 1 second faster).

It’s 9.8 to 7.5 seconds. Same as Russian 100 mm reload rate on the T-54/55s.
I fail to see what the penetration has to do with the reload rate. The M-51’s gun specifically uses smaller casings than that of the French 105 mm cannon, making the complete rounds smaller, weight less and have a lower muzzle velocity than it.

It’s also not HEAT-FS, but that really doesn’t matter.

Edit: I forgot this, but the M-51 also has a ready rack, 8 rounds to be exact. This means it cannot sustain those 9.8 to 7.5 seconds of reload forever. Once it runs out of ready rack that reload rate goes jumps, 12.5 to 9.6 seconds, due to a reload multiplier of 1.28. You’re barely faster reloading with a fully maxed out loader without a ready rack than a level 0 loader with a ready rack.

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its 6.7 and normal ones with solid shot is 6.3

how do i avoid teams like this.
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/344504304681943344?public_key=UOWlwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9

T92 is way shorter and way easier to hide

It’s also 7.0, with a much worse reverse.

decompression is needed now more than any other time in WT essentially with how bad it has gotten at 7.0+ in air.

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Blame the American mains who kept demanding new stuff. We had four or five tiers just for WWII alone, and now look. We have like four tiers for the 1950s to the modern era all because of, “when F-16,” “when F-15,” “when F-18,” etc.

russians where doing it too

Get back to me when you have multiple threads a week demanding various Russian equipment on the same level as Americans. I mean, we had people begging for the F-18 the second the F-16 was announced. I don’t recall seeing Russians demanding the Su-30 the second the Su-17 was put into the game.