Yes, the Z9WA is now not even able to lock onto ground targets and can only guide the AKD9 manually, I don’t know if this is the case in reality, but this is really gaijin style. It changed, but it didn’t
The TY90 is now very weak compared to before. At 10.0BR, it can only carry a maximum of 4 pieces, and carrying all TY90 pieces will not have the ability to attack the ground. Carrying only two TY90 pieces is useless now. The anti-interference ability of the current version of TY90 has deteriorated, with a hard straightness of about 1km after launch, making it unable to handle face-to-face targets about 2km away from itself during launch, and the missile speed is much slower than before. Moreover, the 81C anti-aircraft vehicle at 10.0 is superior to the TY90 in terms of range, anti-interference, and overload. Therefore, the TY90 should eliminate hard straightness and increase the image locking mode to restore the display’s ability to specifically attack helicopters
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theyre awesome, make all of them go down by atleast a point in br so china gets balanced anything against all of the majors
helicopter anti air is quickly being replaced by 4th gen fighters. f16c with its smokless aim9ms and soon j11 with its 6 r73 plus r27t/r with hmd
the 81c is indeed vastly superior to ty90, its pretty much an r27et with better irccm
The point is that TY90s lift the Z9s to BRs they should not be in. They are sitting at 10.0/10.7 respectively, defaulting HJ8, which does 3 km, 220 m/s, with 480 mm pen. At 10.0, that is useless. Even with the upgraded HJ8H, it only has 550 pen and 3.75km range. The mismatch of AA and AS abilities are very real, so the problem is not with the round but the balancing choices by made for them to go to higher BRs.
Never mind F16C, the AH1Z has AIM9Ms, which means that it is not nobody has good AA missiles, its just they prefer to go anti-ground with hellfires.
Welp AH-1Z only has 2 AA Missiles (AIM-9M/L) whiles many others still stuck with Stinger (that still need fix) for Soviet they at least have Vikhr that can be both ATGM and great SAM against slow flying targets. UK Apache also has Starstreak that can be use as both AA and light ATGM. but they’re broken against Air targets for a while (don’t know if Gaijin already fix them or not).
So i would said that China helicopter with TY-90 are still on top in term of helicopter with best AA missiles.
Germany was developing a miniature iris-t sort of ir aam for the tiger uht but of course that got mothballed like everything in the Bundeswehr, along with the godly 30mm that still hasnt been adopted
Wrong you’re able to camp air spawns very effectively even at the current BR whether you want it or not. Ofcourse added capability means your heli will be higher. It should be in that br.
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Don’t talk about Ka 50s, I can’t even lock onto them with IR missiles. The AA missiles are great with starstreak, since they are the only ones that can kill tanks and are able to be brought in Ground RB at spawn.
But it is inconsistent, I could no longer camp air spawns never mind the Z9s are basically Strelas in the air, with much higher spawn points. The HJ8s are one of the worst default missiles, and could not kill anyone at 10.0 one shot, it takes at least 3 rounds to kill an abrams.
I agree with this, the Z-9W at 10.0 is basically just a flying strela, but you at least have the potential of killing ground units, unlike the strela. Being able to fly has its pros and cons as an SPAA, as you can cover more areas, but you are more vulnerable to other SPAAs and have little to no cover other than from prop buildings outside of the ground map, or geographical cover.
Strela is also 10.3 now.
Z-9WA is a whole different story, where it can carry 4x TY-90s and 4x AKD-9s (with TV tracking), as well as great thermals, zoom, and MAW with flares. It’s very reasonable at 10.7, just like the Z-19 is reasonable at 11.3. The Z-10 slightly suffers at 11.7, but it’s also pretty good ( 4th/5th place heli in the entire game).
If it wasn’t for the TY-90s, the Z-9W would be somewhere around 9.0, the Z-9WA would be around 10.0/10.3, Z-19 would be 10.7 / 11.0, and the Z-10 would be 11.0 / 11.3.
You are obviously not supposed to use them at all. Use the bad chinese rockets instead of the absolutely awful ATGMs, CCIP goes hard. OR simply swap to OH58, hellfires are pretty good
You mean K-52 with its DIRCM (which in my opinion are too strong) Since irl in certain conflict They still get lock on by MANPADS . Ka-50 don’t have DIRCM only MAW .
starstreak are broken against air targets for a while. (there are topic about them in this forum) Now they can be use against slow flying targets but still have problem against fast moving targets like jet unlike TY-90.
Yes they can damage tank via weak spot or kill light armor vehicles. Some people did suggest Helicopters with starstreak need more Spawn point increase like ADATS since they can be both AAM and ATGM and shouldn’t be able to first spawn with starstreak.
Oh no when you can’t camp and actually have to use your skill like everyone else at top tier. Thats normal. You still have great missiles even when you can’t camp everyone.
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just get better lol
It is just an expensive strela, it can not kill any ground targets, you really are using skills when you fire 16 hellfires at ground targets, whilst I am dealing with half the range, penetration and speed. If there is no TY90, Z9W is 9.0 max, Z9WA is max 9.7-10.0.
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Yes you are if they have hostile air and spaa up.
Regardless, point of your helicopter in this game is not anti ground but anti air. Accept that fact. Not every helicopter does the same.
I love my miniature pl5’s