Oh, I have an extra smoke issue whenever using one of the Gepard SPAAs - the moment I respawn after being blown up, they pop smoke. It doesn’t remove one from the ammo counter, it just produces a cloud out of nowhere.
Also, at least those in-the-launcher hits I’ve seen and experienced myself don’t produce a cloud ahead of the vehicle, usually they “dribble” smoke for a bit, then stop. There’s also the “acoustic indication”, meaning the sound of bot rounds hitting a player tank followed by a launcher pop.
As for the O_HOgameplay guy, the moment he started babbling about Ted Bundy I dropped him down the ignore hole. It’s just like assault groups ignoring the bot planes, I have no time for this.
You can do that, but what I stated aligns with what’s there.
The nonsense that goes the same for your opinion?
Well, I think it is a fitting change to make it so it’s still there and not removed just because you can’t handle it.
You were the one who posted it, I sarcastically added it because you were the one crying, as seen in this thread.
Yea, I’m pretty sure I do as every thread you and I have engaged in has ended up with you trying to insult and make arguments, whilst posting up pages of info to cloud the issue making it harder and harder to remain concentrated on the one issue.
Nitpick and make scenarios that don’t align with anything just to keep arguing.
You’re the one throughout the thread making out that people aren’t understanding, or that players can’t comprehend…
Hardly a gotcha.
What is this nonsense? You are showing how angry you are and non-discussion you genuin ely are by pulling all these arguments out of thin air to merely attack someone…
No, you’re angry and making labels for everyone to make it not your issue.
I didn’t need to ‘fool’ AI to get that answer, the prompt is there for you to try yourself.
Cool story, but you can test the prompts yourself.
It wasn’t AI that made my argument, I hold it myself, it was just to disprove your ultimate want to paint out that KDR, and winrate are anything directly related to skill.
Stop being so combative because you posted a post after a YEAR, to try tell me I’m wrong for christs sake.
I cam definitely agree. Any of the IFVs are pretty good for it but tbh tbe 2S38 is probably the most meta vehicle since you can front pen anything+infinite ammo rack.
I also tested it in a game just now and the other guy was right, smoke definitely works. It just only works when it’s completely deployed like he said though and the bots can immediately see through it the moment it starts to dissipate. They can also see through the edges to an extent too
This is what i do since it also prevents smoke discharging when the launcher is hit. Though some Challengers have built in launchers that you cant take off i think.
Basically just automatically the launchers being automatically unistalled in the mode (as well as disabling smoke shells) would be the best option.
Very mature. Last time i saw this behaviour from somebody i was in 3rd grade, and even then it was cringe.
i did.
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Okay. Show me a significant amount of playerbase with high K/D with sub 50% win rate where:
-The players are NOT cheaters
-The players did not take place in rigging/squad statpads
-The accounts were not used to do any other illegal or manipulative actions
With this answered you could effectively disprove my claims.
Tho this is like asking a flerf for proof. Hint: They have none!
Actually, i think there is a way to automate the checking of every player in game and it could be plotted on a graph. I will ask staff if i am allowed to get that data. If they allow me to do it, and i prove definitively that i am right, i just wanna know what excuses you will come up with.
Oh i know, you will use the age old “NU-UH”.
As I demonstrated with the AI post, I don’t think that KDR/Winrate directly relate to skill, and can’t be the measure.
You can have someone confident as hell, going out on the field and slaying everyone, or you can have a chook hiding in the back sniping.
Either way their KDR won’t actually reflect how they play, it’s just them being able to push the numbers.
I had a match earlier where the entire team bar 2 camped at spawn trying to snipe, there was a low BR (2.3 in a 5.7-6.0 match) who didn’t do anything but die, and the rest of the team was just all sitting back, trying to get kills but just not die.
They did nothing for the win, yet got a couple of kills for thier death, but it definitely doesn’t say they are ‘good’ in my eyes.
If that were the case, you’d end up with people thinking they are psychic decideing not to spawn because they don’t think the team is worthy of their sacrifice.
Consider your question answered. Agree with it or not, I don’t care… Don’t try corner and berate me like you have as that is unacceptable.
In both cases they will end up with a higher win rate than average. While a camper will have LESS than somebody who is in the front, they will still end up above 50% win rate, since they still do more damage to the enemy than what they do to their own team.
Ok, so?
They arent. What was their K/D? Just because they are positive in one match does not mean they will be in the next 10.
So you ran away…
Anyway, if they allow me to gather that data, i will make the plotting just to provide concrete evidence…
But who says you won’t mess with the data? HUH? (I say this because you accused me of manipulating the AI to avoid acknowledging the post for what it was…)
It literally can’t, as the numbers reflect only a certain thing, they don’t actually measure true performance. You THINK they do because you WANT them to so you can explain why others are bad, nothing else.
This is just speculation… A camper sitting back getting nothing, will still get a win if the TEAM is able to pull it off, do you think they deserved that ‘stat’ because I literally don’t think they do. They did nothing to ‘win’ it.
So the 2.3 would’ve got a win, for nothing had we won… They’re not going to actually do anything for the team as they got no kills and just died.
I’m not like you fixateds on numbers to explain things or predict things… I care not to even check.
It’s pretty simple… Your want for a graph, would make you think that the team is garbage, so why bother spawning at all…
Pretty simple to see, otherwise, what’s the information for, what are you going to do?
Decide to camp? Decide to rush? If you seen the numbers were that bad, and you were late in the evening about to go bed, I’m ssure you’;d just bail out if the numbers looked like junk to you.
Again, I’m still here.
‘Concrete evidence’ is just what you deem it to be, it’s just numbers. Numbers that don’t directly relate to actual skill, just play time and such.
Just as a total outsider without taking any sides.
Air Sim can lead to such.
Certain BR brackets are full of people who leave matches when faced with the slightest opposition and also heavily unbalanced BR brackets. At these brackets, it’s possible to amass a good K/D through legitimate play and still have terrible win/rate.
Another contributor is that you can join matches at any time, even 60-70 minutes deep. This can lead to you joining unwinnable games that, while a lot of hectic dogfights and interceptions, there’s no way for you to turn it around and win on your lonesome as a fighter player (i HAVE seen strike plane/bomber players singlehandedly flip tickets tho if left unbothered long enough.)
You were given the prompts to check yourself yet you still ran your yap…
Just saying, I said that mockingly, I wouldn’t care if you thought your program was the bees knees, basing any faith in it ignoring what I said about it not directly relating, will mean people will have false hopes and severe assumption issues.
Again, they don’t as I have mentioned, you are just saying no at this point, ignoring everything that’s been said to you.
You may think that, but I think you’re just tryi ng to avoid the points desperately.
But what if they don’t take any, that’s what I was directly mentioning. You can play it up like they’re going to get top kills, but that isn’t the case, all the time, and even a majority of the time in some cases.
Where’s this stat pulled because I think you’ve just made it up.
Again, nope… That’s your misinterpretatioon of those numbers to keep decrying my point and ignoring it in the same method.
I could highlight more, but that was just a match last night where I rushed, and the team were all sitting back, trying to do nothing.
The dodging here is being done by you.
Stop posting meme pics just to be argumentative.
Cool beans, then show us how the factors I have highlighted don’t play on those stats you hold so dear… There’s a reason people used to decry stat-padders, and this is the exact reason why you can’t truast those numbers to tell you definitively how ‘good’ some player is.
Don’t be insulting when you can’t actually taske on board any of the points raised.
Did you per chance work for Blizzard or something, because I don’t like MSPaint ‘examples’…
More insults just to dismiss the points…
That’s not what I’ve said at all…
I have said that K/D +/| Winrate != Skill or ability… I think your drive to argue has made you not even bother underrstanding what was put to you in the first place, and I feel that has also played into the reason you want to bump a year old thread to berate and make out that I am wrong just to make yourself feel like you have a better ‘argument’.
Again, I don’t think that smoke should be removed, as someone else said it could be possible that the AI actually can’t see through it, so if anything that should be improved rather than removing something to stop someone being upset and angry about others using it.
And another way to statpad with the scenario that the 2.3 was spawned, they use the low BR to get a feel for the match, let it play out, then spawn their precious KDR normal BR vehicle when the team is spawncamped, so they can spawn with protection and take shots off before dying.
There’s so many ways to manipulate play that KDR and winrate become less and less ‘accurate’ for what you want to put it out to be.
Sim has a low player count, and as such it can have a slightly different curve, however it should still follow an upward trend in win rate as K/D increases.
Both AB and RB follow a gaussian distribution, which is what we expect, while sim follows a somewhat even distribution. This can be due to the nature of the mode as well as to the low player numbers (several million in both RB and especially AB, while about ~200k in sim).
I don’t play with negative nancies, it’s a waste of my time because you’re deadset not caring about anything but complaining about how bad it is.
No, you don’t understand actual manipulation and playing passively to maintain that precious unrelated stat because so many put faith into such a flawed metric.
This isn’t CoD. You can respawn and even use backups. Your stat isn’t accurate for what you want to portray it as.
Rather than repeating that you can’t understand it, tell me what you don’t understand so I can actually explain to you in crayon terms as to where the issue lay…
Stop being so fixated on trying to make out I don’t understand things, so you can one-liner avoid everything put forth to you.
