I really feel like the new DIRCM on the Z10-E or Mi-28NM and other helis just makes many of the new top BR SPAA pretty useless. Especially since the effect of the DIRCM is much to great in many cases.
IRIS-T cant hit them at all.
Aim-9X cant hit them at all. AIM-120C-7 ofc can hit but the radar on the CLAWS is a joke and cant pick up any heli flying below 200m anways.
I cant speak for the Tan-SAM Kai or the CS/SA5 but since their missles are IR as well I would image them not being able to hit any DIRCM as well.
So for those nations you are forced to use worse SACLOS SPAA again to deal with the DIRCM but then you are again just victim to Jets with ATGMs.
Obviously the Pantsir is exempt from all these issues since it often doesnt even face DIRCM helis to begin with.
And whats even more annoying is that the “Bubble” of DIRCM taking effect is just massive on the helis, any IR missles that is even just aimed in a similar sector as a heli will go into the ground or space. The heli can be 1km away and at a 90° angle away from where you aiming and it will still dazzle your missle.
And on another note. Im not a AA missle technitian but since these all have DL shouldnt the missles be able to just hit anyways with radar guidance even if they get dazzled?
A) the LDIRCCM on Mi-28NM and Z-10E should be able to counter one missile at time; currently it works as bubble shield against infinite number of targets
B) manufacturer of that damn thing itself stated its only effective against older generation IR missiles. IRIS-T should be absolutely able to land a hit.
The type 81 can shutdown the ldircm using photo contrast, but it still need a clear lock without clutter. So a heli with ldircm hovering 100, 200, 300m above ground will still be non-lockable.
IRCM has been in the game for years, and has always impacted IR guided SPAA.
You can spawn radar SPAA instead if you feel you’re under bigger threat from helicopters.
Since they are immune to IR, doesn’t it also get support from IOG, GNSS, DL, ARH or other guidance’s to be able to hit their targets? I could understand if its just IR guidance being used, but with multiple guidance available, it puzzles me.
No, in game the moment IR lock is acquired, things like IOG or DL are disengaged. And there is no recognition of IRCM affecting the missile, so the missile does not switch to IOG/DL, and gets decoyed 100% of the time
In that case I really hope Gaijin adds the IOG+DL guidance to the IR Type 81 C missile since it also has Photocontrast mode capabilities. Too far, radar will guide it, once close enough, photocontrast will pick it up with no IR usage. Will make it more accurate. Hope it works that way too, but im not certain.
So far ARH missiles sometimes work and sometimes don’t. A bit unreliable against helis currently.
ARH by themself does not seem to aquire helis, unless they are moving fast (doppler return of a giant fan spinning a few times a second, what’s that?). If they are not moving fast, they rely on IOG+DL, so if a heli is slowly sliding to one side, the missile will miss.
Because dev was lazy to code so they took dazzler code and added new band 8 that block even these new missiles completely and made a laser dazzler instead of modeling it properly that’s what made laser one performance so overpowered in irl it can at max block 2 and even that need time and distance not gaijin created laser shield
Only 2 nations has that feature, on 2 of the decent heli platform, apache has something similar, where it is?
Feature work as NOT-intended, it only work against older generation missile, and only 1 missile at a time, and has limited shoot down capability
Community complain about feature being WAY OVER what even the manufacture stated
Against… 1 missile at a time, older generation IR missile or manpads
NOT being a bubbles that defeat multiple very modern IR/radar slave missiles and has no downside/no limit range and capability
Nope. If you overwhelm the system with multiple missiles find its target. I’ve done it with the IRS-T SLM Helicopters with DIRCM are not immune to IR missles.
Not everything in warthunder is accurate to it’s real life counterpart bro. I suggest getting your information from actual sources rather than a game lol