[Development] Discussing reports related to the Challenger 2 MBT

Id argue on par with 2A7 as i imagine the turret roof weakspot is still is still present just above the breach that spalls and kills the entire turret crew, but if it improves further it could be easily the strongest ingame.

I found really heatfs is the problem there for crew not so much solid munitions.

in my experience ive had just about everything be a problem in that spot as it doesnt trigger the spall liners basically exploiting the gap which iirc shouldnt exist just above the breach.

Yeah seems better on the dev as I mentioned above but it’s definitely a weak spot. I’m not sure how the Spall liners are modelled for each country but the chally Spall liners seem very inefficient compared to their peers of that just me?

there is supposed to be ones around the entire hull side and LFP aswell but they arent modeled for w/e reason so

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Hello @Smin1080p i know you are not here, and i know im bringing the dead back to life but im here to talk about the ASPRO-HMT again. Developers use this picture as a reference for STANAG protection
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That is what is used for
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However if we go a little further in the document we find this
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Where we can find how things like single armour pieces are measured, that includes the ASPRO


As well as types of targets that can be take place in the test

ASPRO would fall under Fully engineered target that

After that we move to


That leaves us with a fact that targets like armour parts or ERA/NERA blocks just like ASPRO- HMT are shot at their front, not the front of the thing they will be mounted on, just like here

Also mandatory table with protection

And the brochure stating the STANAG level

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The brochure states that ASPRO-HMT design is based on the Bradley add-on armor and is using the same concept and technologies. Internal structure of the Bradley add-on armour tiles can be seen on this picture, consisting of tilted passive armour plates with explosive material around them, further strenghtening the STANAG 5 rating for the ASPRO-HMT.
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I hope that materials i have provided above will be able to show that the current interpetations of measuring STANAG level and ASPRO-HMT protection are incorrect and the developers will take a second look at all the materials provided to them by the community, leading to making the game as accurate as possible.

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mantlet seems to be reduced a lot now in effective protection. not sure what changed but it kinda feels like the live turret right now.

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Thankyou sir, doing gods job for him. I haven’t seen anyone else notice this and present it so hopefully they accept it as it is from the documents they themselves have quoted from.

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As an addendum, the following image showing the interior of BRAT (Bradley Reactive Armor Tiles) that are mentioned in the brochure, as is evident they use similar layout to Kontact-5 (Heavy type; overlapping, angled flier plates) ERA bricks, and so should have similar protective ratios between KE and CE threats(~1:3), not those of Kontact-1 bricks (~1:13).

M2 Bradley ODS-SA BRAT HERA tiles

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Ir appears Gaijin is finally fixing this!

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We wait to see if they change ASPRO-HMT on the TES/OES or ROMOR on the Challenger 1/2 and hope they do.

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Is it just me or are the flier plates in the X-ray upside down?

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Dont appear to be.

Holy shit, our tanks may actually become worth the weight…. Here’s just hoping they fix the challengers, not great odds considering it’s British but here’s hoping.

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Maybe just a bug?

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Visual model copied over from egg-box relict I think

meanwhile the leclerc is dying…

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I have no idea if you have seen this, but could you pass this to the devs @Smin1080p?

Hello

Please make a report so it can be properly forwarded and logged.

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Ok, will be done in a minute

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