[ DEV Server ] F16 blk 52 discussion thread

It’s a bit tricky with Scorpion since we don’t have any images of any air to air symbology for the F-16 only what the ground symbology could look like.

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But seeing how it’s already close to what the A-10C has they could use it’s Scorpion as a base and just add the ground target / IFF boxes in colour instead of the current X it uses.

For air symbology maybe they base it off of JHMCS II air symbology?
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Obviously it would be this mutant HMD but anything is better than the current JHMCS and will give it a usable HMD until we start to see what the full symbology of Scorpion for the F-16 looks like.

Or Gaijin goes for JHMCS II instead of Scorpion since we know more about that currently. It would also give the other aircraft like the F-15’s a better HMD too.

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Yeah I mean personally I would be happy if it had:

  • Missile seeker symbology (shows where the missile is looking, like JHMCS has)
  • Radar lock symbology (shows where the radar lock is, like on the F/A-18s JHMCS, or Rafale’s Scorpion)
  • IFF + DL (shows friendly positions, like on the A-10C)

So if they updated the A-10C’s HMD to have radar lock and missile seeker symbology I’d be pretty happy, personally.

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Why does the F-16 PoBIT have “IRST” listed in sensors on the DEV Server? Bug?

Is the lack of an option to use MAW/BOL blocks together with AAMs on the F16C PoBIT final? Does this mean that, for example, you lose one AMRAAM missile for 90 CMs or two for 180? If that is the case then it adds zero value to the ARB capability of this aircraft.

Don’t know, they might be working on passive A2A search & tracking modes for Targeting pods in the background.

Could also be the signs of the planned inclusion of the Legion IRST pod

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A lot of jets got “infrared trackers” in their loadout in the datamine




we already had F-16 that should’ve had scorpion so dont expect anything.

And we still have the fraud gajin did to J-10C and fake units…

Im gonna repeat what i said for months ago, the way us cas is being treated is absurd, the us pioneered guided a2g ordinance, and still spesrheads it today, yet ingame they get none of their tools despite how off meta they might be.

The f/a18e one of the most capable strike aircraft in the world got added with no new weapons still using the same nerfed agm65s.

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Yes.

It’s not what you think it is, it’s not IRST.
TGPs need a tracker sensor (TV or IR) internally to be able to track targets. In the game you can’t see them, you automatically equip them together with the TGP.

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Well because Storm breakers would be “game breaking additions” as if the Kh38ML/T (fake missiles as far as I’m concerned) didn’t completely destroy game balance, or as if LGBs didn’t completely destroy game balance, as if so on and so forth. The US CAS in this game post 2021? Has been gimped beyond relief for no rightful reason other than it isn’t Russian, or so I’m being led to believe right now.

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The US CAS is 1980s technology Mavericks, lackluster damage model. Atp. out of the big nations, US CAS is the worst.

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CAS isn’t limited to Mavericks you know

US CAS pretty much is, unless you think laser guided bombs (not even glide bombs) are better

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Glide bombs are underrated, the ljdam 62 er can move on the fly and adjust to a moving target, slinging them and getting kills makes them super effective

ok, and look at what US planes have those on live (heres a hint, there is only 2 in tech tree)

and even the few that are getting them now on dev have significant artificial limitations on how many they can carry

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Nowhere in my post do I mention that CAS is purely mavericks. But just comparing fnf ordnance available to other nations, atp. The USA has the worst selection. All nations that have Eurocanards have access to either hammers or spice 250s. The chinese have similar capabilities with the LS-6(IR) bombs. Japan now has the unbeatable KH38MTs, together with Russia. Israel has both the best CAS F15 and F16. Both of them have access to the amazing spice bombs. Sweden, of course, has the feared Grippen E. I would go as far as saying that currently the best CAS plane the USA has is the Superhornet with its SAP-HE mavericks, maverick Ds are just too unreliable. Laser guided weapons beside the Brimstones, are very situational. Again, I want to emphasize that the US is the only nation that doesn’t possess modern fnf weaponary to deal with contemporary threats.

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Those platforms are improved a lot by having them on it. The Super Hornet is a lot of fun in GRB. Should be on more and yes without limitations. Imagine slinging them without a limiter on the F-15E, the range would be insane

Oh, that’s good to know it’s weird that it’s listed as a separate item but oh well

Anything that requires post-launch guidance is much harder to use than FnF missiles/bombs, it’s not even close honestly.

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FnF Mavs really aren’t viable options in Toptier GRB tbh
The guidance logic is so poor that Mavs easily end up lose track or miss a fast moving target.

Even if it manages to hit, shot may be blocked randomly by MG,front main armour, Track, ERA etc.
hence little damage is delivered.

Plus, being subsonic makes it a easy target for interception.

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