And because of poor thermals and gun handling.
AFAIK, early production T-80Us cannot fire it due to using the 2A46M-1 (which is just 2A46M modified for a T-80), but later production T-80Us with 2A46M-4 can use it.
The T-80U we have modeled in game uses the 2A46M-1, but for example the T-80UE-1 has the 2A46M-4 and can use 3BM60.
The thing is that there ar no 11.3 MBT, but the event one. Also I use Ka-50 and it would be nice if I could have a good lineup with it, but I can’t.
Even your record says it’s not fine bro
I don’t have it, but I have the T-80U from sweden; and it’s very close to positive
They are the same? it is not good at all. My stock 2A7 was feasting on them with DM33 which is a stock apfsds rounds, imagine what will happen to them after I get the DM53?
You cannot be serious, T 80 U is one of Warthunder’s most powerful MBTs.
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What is so powerful about it bro? why every time someone say something like this, their records say they struggle with it?
Does not at all make it irrelevant.
I think it’s just me but I never had a good moment with T-80, actually none of top tier USSR vehicles, so I can’t say much. But I’d rather pick T-72B3.
Effectively, yes, both have Gen 1 thermals, both have the same armor, both have the same ERA, both have similar guns.
The T-80UK is at 11.7 with all of that, a better round, and better survival chances, like a LWS, and soft kill APS that works on some missiles it shouldn’t.
You can’t take my record seriously; or even cherry-pick for one vehicle without looking at other vehicles. There are very few vehicles I play seriously, and they are usually Swedish, like the s-tank, which I’ve learned the in’s and out’s on, and even dropped a nuke in it.
So might as well give the thing 3BM60 and let it stay at 11.7. Cause for the love of god top tier br for both ground and air is still super compressed. We do not need to bring it down. Sure I agree that it’s not good at 11.7 but it’s also not unplayable. Still playeable but definitely worse than it peer , well most of it peer are also not that good,cause other nation also pretty bad at that br as well(Except Fuji and type 90s, they need to go up , that thing shouldn’t be at 11.3). So we don’t need to lower it BR. Give it a better round, it wouldn’t change much about the tank but give it better performance
AFAIK only T-80UE-1 can receive 3BM60, due to new autoloader. So other tanks will not receive a better shell.
Then they should stay the BR they all are as they are fine.
- good armor
- good mobility
- good shell
cons - bad thermals
- no depression
if you want me to go more in depth the T80UK its good at the br it is and i have enjoyed it so far + the LWS adds an extra layer of survivability helping me against enemy hellfires
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And the current BR system should be expanded.
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Definitely
Forward mobility is good but in reverse it kinda sucks.
Atrocious gun handling as well.
gun handling hasnt been an issue unless its vertical traverse but it has only messed me up like 2 times regarding that as for reverse yeah it kinda sucks but honestly much better experiences over my T72
if t80ue1 is 11.7 i dont see why the significantly worse versions are also 11.7