They say war thunder is a “team game” 🤷♂️
the vehicles around you?
Look at the people on your airfield, if there are any AV-8B+ with AMRAAMs, Su-27s, F-15As, M4Ks, J-8Fs and the likes you are in a 13.0 game
well yeah ill see a f14 iraf or something along those lines and than i get pummled by a su27
Have you ever played an 11.0 against F4S? It absolutely sucks.
Having to face one in a 10.7, or god forbid a 10.3 as you request, would be horrific.
F4S is legitimately one of the best 12.0’s in the game. It does not need a BR decrease, just because its average user weighs it down with a million tons of bombs to destroy bases, enters turnfights against things it can’t out turn, and faceplants into every missile thrown at without a care in the world.
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first off most of the time i don’t bring bombs only 4 aim 7fs and a gun to try and get a semblance of turn time and how do you suggest i out maneuver a missile in a f4 i have gone full real control many times and pulled as hard as i can while dumping literally every cm i have and it does nothing cause it turns like shit
mean while in the mig 23ml full real control turns it into a fucking demon
Why take 4 AIM-7Fs when you can take 5, 2 sidewinders and a gun
cause weight drag and compression when i even think about looking at the ground, ive also found that the ir missiles are so god damn flare prone, if they even think about popping a flare the missile just fucks off
I get the not carrying 9Hs but the Phantom’s flight performance is so shit that carrying those 2 extra AIM-7Fs doesn’t really make a difference. I can still do a sort of cobra maneuver with it
You learn what planes are what BR and check scoreboard to see what you ended up in.
Not without squadding up it isn’t.
? not that difficult, most IR missiles (save for the 13.0 jets that carry AIM-9Ms and the rare magic 2 or r73 you might face) are pretty easy to flare for the F-4S, and you can always multipath or notch radar missiles
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i do and i watch my own team when i spawn but the most i will see is a f14 and then on the other team there is a su27
saying that the f4 can cobra is laughably wrong
I updated that comment earlier with more text
? not how the matchmaker works, if you have 13.0s so do they 99% of the time and vice versa, su27s arent crazy good jets they’re actually pretty mediocre for their BR
I think im just unlucky cause i constantly get killed by the missiles you mentioned
No, you just don’t understand how to avoid them.
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Put it in full real controls and it has a chance to get above 80 degrees of AoA and make sure you have enough altitude.
what whenever i see a missile turn sideways to it cut engine and pop some cm, i am fully aware of how to avoid missiles the aircraft just cant handle what i tell it to do cause the flight model is garbo
90% of the time im already on the ground to avoid radar missiles