You aren’t defending correctly
Depends what missile it is?
If it’s IR, AB off, present a cooler aspect and drop a couple flares at once, spacing subsequent flare drops a second or two apart.
If it’s SARH / ARH, depends on the situation. Cranking & notching if you’re higher. Multipathing if you’re lower. (And occasional chaff drops for both).
If you ever find yourself in a position where missiles are being slung at you, where you legitimately have 0 counterplay options, then either your team collapsed and the match is joever anyway, or you mispositioned / overextended.
Right now I hear skill issue
Don’t pop some cm, go turn your engine to 100% and start maneuvering to actively defend against ARHs and SARHs and make sure you are dumping chaff when you are defending
I do everything you mention and i still get destroyed by missiles
yeah this isnt how you avoid missiles, you sound like you have like half the understanding and are trying but don’t have the full picture. If you do this to an AIM-9M you will die. If you do this to a AAM-3 you will die. If you do this to a radar missile and DONT have a 90 degree notch angle (which you almost certainly dont because this takes a while to learn but once you do you’ll just stop dying to radar missiles that aren’t ambush shots) then you will die
Sometimes pulling tons of AoA on some radar missiles allow you dodge it easily when it is close to hitting you.
I have pulled cobra like maneuvers to avoid close proximity radar missiles
Crazy cobra
There is an issue with that clip.
You have the cursor up which causes the aircraft to pitch down which limits the amount of AoA you can pull
Don’t do Cobra’s in ARB.
It works in a TikTok edit, but it’s useless 99% of the time in practice.
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Exactly
I agree.
They are good as a last ditch effort to dodge a radar missile but it is only like 55 degrees of AoA at a time
Sure is bud
Oh wait you have it inverted.
I thought it was default control setting
With mouse and keyboard you can get more AoA
End of the story is the f4 cant pull hard let alone “cobra”
Honestly the fix to all of the issues we have discussed in the post is just instead of facing one br up and down make it only 0.7 br up and down and it would make everything feel so much better
It can pull hard just that you lose all speed when you do so. You can only pull hard in full real controls
Sometimes you can do everything right and still get got. That’s just the nature of things
But if you do everything right, more often then not, it should save you.
I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I see so many people who say they were notching / cranking / multipathing, when in fact they were not - or sort of were but not doing it properly.
I literally just showed you a clip of me doing exactly what you said i can NOT pull hard in the slightest
its so weird i think i might have bad internet or smth but at top tier there has been 5-6 times where ive done nothing and the missile flew right past me cause i was to late to react so i just accepted it