jsp si t’as vu mon message, mais il y a pleins de fautes de frappes, méfie toi des valeurs. Ils ont drag and drop comme des animaux.
I’d think that making it the F4D would make more sense given that it’s in the USAF line, making it the F4B would most likely move it over to the Naval air line.
After a long and painful grind I finally bought F5C a week ago. Now it’s 11.0 … FML
Some are really good changes but a lot of them feels like they have been decided by a script.
I’ll post my suggestion for BR changes:
A-1A 10.7->10.7
If you don’t flare you aren’t going to evade Piranha nor the AIM-9L therefore the G limit doesn’t matter much especially considering the trade off in range.
F-5E FCU 11.0->11.7
F-5A(China) 10.7->11.0
Worse airframe compared to the F-5E that it’s already going at 11.3
F-104G(Italy) 10.7->11.0
It has less missiles compared to the counterparts
Netz 12.3->12.7
J-8F
Give it PL-8Bs if moved at 13.0
And swap the PL-5B with the PL-5C to ease the research
F-16A(base, MLU, ADF(not the french one)) 12.0-> 12.7
They don’t have any kind of IIRCM missiles nor a good amount of CMs
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JAS39A is limited to 6 missiles and only has skyflash/AIM7-E2. Unlike the su 27 which have somewhat of a chance wit their longer range missile loadouts. Do i agree with them being different BR’s no. Do i think they should be 13.0 yes, ARH is 1 br above the capability of those without.
Well now they might lol
you guys should REALLY make top tier 14.0 and have the f4s and mirage f1s at 12.0 still and make the gripen A 13.3… having one of the best dogfighters in the game with 6 9Ms downtier against the mirage with only 2 IRCCM missiles and the F4s only having rear aspect missiles.
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The F4F Early moving up as well as the F4C is criminal. No flares at those BRs is just terrible
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Kurnass 2000 to 12.3 without armament changes is crazy. Sure it is the best F4 when it comes to flightmodel with really good RWR and Radar but it is still a brick compared to the F16’s that are starting a single BR bracket above. not to mention that it does have a good radar but no missles to profit from.
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Yeah, I quite like the J-8F with it’s PL-12s, but I would love for its IR missile load to get some love.
Kinda feel it should have been kept to the same BR as the F-4S is going too, 12.0.
Had to do a triple take when I saw that the F4-J uk is 12.0 and the mig23MLD 11.7. So will the British Phantoms finally be getting their aim-9L?
Also, regading the F-5C… only .3br lower than the squad f5 with pythons and P2’s xD Who signed off on this? xD
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F4C at 10.7 is wild
the R77s are horrible compared to aim120s thats why
What? MAWs are trash, on the M2K you need to deactivate them at every start or you will burn throught the small amount of countermeasures you have after 2 missiles…
BR Decompression in War Thunder will always be something very good to see, however I am worried about the way that the Air Simulator Battles BR rotation will be changed.
Basically aircraft such as the Mirage F1C, Mirage F1C-200, F-4J, F-4S, F-4J(UK), Tornado F.3 and Tornado ADV (basically anything going up to BR 12.0+ in Air SIM) will frequently see themselves facing up against BR 12.7 fighters (F-14s, F-16AJ, MiG-29) in 2 out of the 4 BR rotations, and will face up against BR 13.0 fighters (F-15A, Netz, JAS39A, Mirage 4000, AV-8B Plus, J8F, MiG-29G, etc.) in 1 out of the 4 BR rotations.
As a result this will mean that the Mirage F1C, Mirage F1C-200, JA-37s, F-4J, F-4S, F-4J(UK), Tornado F.3 and Tornado ADV (basically anything going up to BR 12.0+ in Air SIM) will be completely outmatched by their BR 12.7 and BR 13.0 opposition in Simulator Battles in 3 out of the 4 BR rotations.
Please if possible try to revise how this will affect these aircraft, as it will be seriously frustrating to have these aircraft suffer in so many BR rotations.
Sure, the F-20 and the MiG-21 Bison premiums will benefit a LOT from those changes, but will that worth the complete sacrifice of the F-4S, Mirage F1C-200, and F-4J(UK) premiums?
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and why the hell are theese planes going to face the gripen A for???
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these changes are completly insane like. yak 141 being 12.7 when it only carrys a 4 missiles and two are radar missles that are good but thats all it has going for it. the f4c has zero flares and a very terrible radar that doesnt lock anything so its gonna be facing the f3 tornado which has an amazing radar and some insanely good missiles with ZERO COUNTER MESSURES?!?, the ground attck tornados going up makes no sense this was your guys one chance to make them not a hell scape to play but here we are. these br changes are good in some areas but most show none of you play this game and dont listen to us anymore. argue with me if you want dont care im not gonna im stating this and leaving it
How’s Kurnass 2000 got from 11.3 to 12.3? Whole BR up without having any radar missiles. Barely see people play it and can’t say it’s OP in any way.
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