The only ones I see complaining are those asking for MICA fixes constantly, im just stating it doesnt need to be fixed and justifying why
I dont see how saying there was a better chance at getting the MICA fixed had they not pushed so hard for 2 extra missiles and an HMD is “lying”. Im in no way saying it would have garanteed happened, just saying there were better odds getting it fixed had the Rafale been modelled with those realistic drawbacks if that was really what people wanted.
Those ppl dont want realistic modelling like they often pretend is their justification for the MICA fixes, they just want to have the best aircraft in-game period, and they dont really care how they go about doing it.
Also, yes I do genuinly believe there was much more of a chance the MICA would have gotten stuff like range improvements had the Rafale not gotten the 2 extra missiles and HMD, as it would need some other options beyond just stomping anything within 10-20km depending on altitude.
It depends on the perspective, but at least what I have seen over the past few months is that there is only one person who is forcing a fit of the facts to a false claim, turning almost every thread related to France into a brawl.
Also, I would like to advise you that it would be much better to create a separate thread of your own and make your arguments there, as the majority of the participants in this thread do not seem to look favorably on you.
I mean, its about the Rafale and the MICA, this is literally the thread to talk about it. The fact you dont like my opinion doesnt mean Im not allowed to discuss relevant info in relevant threads.
Also that reeks of asking to have your echo chamber back, which is embarrassing.
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idk man. every time, they show the rafale is generally more advanced than the typhoon. typhoon was obsolete by the time the first production prototype flew
and every time you say some stuff about how france shouldnt get their jet/missiles fixed. or hmd is wrong.
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Can I start asking for Eurofighters to not get the fixes they deserve because of my personal opinion? Oh wait, I don’t do that because I’m not an ass (ok, maybe a little bit xD).
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If you bothered actually reading what I said, I do want them fixed, just want it to wait until it’ll be balanced to do so.
Also not sure how bringing the EFT into this is relevant.
nah, full send it. they can adjust other countries stuff & BR if its that much of an issue, or just give them stuff to counter
idk, ive seen you talk about typhoon here before and argue for it and against the rafale
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So you’re openly admitting to just trying to ragebait lmao
Ive said this over and over, I like both aircrafts, and both have their pros and cons.
how am i being toxic, or ragebaiting? i look at both sides arguments, and rafale is generally better for modern conflict against well equipped opponent.
i dont even personally like either all that much, though i do think rafale looks nicer. so not like i am some diehard rafale fan (which there isnt really anything wrong with being)
You just admitted to only bashing the EFT because you saw me talk about the EFT at some point in the past. Thats just about the textbook definition of ragebaiting.
bashing sure, but it is still true. and anyways, EFT is the most direct counterpart to the Rafale (so naturally will come up when comparing the rafale to other jets) and the one you are so worried about getting totally eclipsed by the Rafale with fixed MICA, when it can just get AIM-120C-4, and maybe C-5 if fixed MICA is that oppressive
Once again, no, the EFT isnt the one im worried about “getting totally eclipsed by the Rafale”. Ive said this before but the EFT is easily the second best jet in-game, and some would argue the best atm.
Stuff like the J-10A/11B, the Gripens, basicly all russian jets, and potentially even the F-16’s now ghat the AOA limiter is being added and should (finally) reign in their flight performance all have significantly more need of buffs than the EFT or Rafale.
Your entire argument against me is purely based on your mistaken understanding of my position or your assumptions about me.
even then its fixed by bumping BR of fixed MICA carriers that arent Rafale by .3, and then all of 14.0 to 14.3
idk mate, the wording here doesn’t exactly scream I want to have “calm discussion” with the ppl in the Rafale thread. If you ask me you almost seem to be making a mockery out of it. The entire reason why Rafale players wanted two more missiles was because they pretty much knew already that the MICA wouldn’t be fixed for when the plane dropped in the live server, since the MICA has been in the game for a notable amount of time by now, and so far Gaijin has given ZERO indication that it wants to do anything to address the issue of kinematic range. And plus, let’s be honest. It would’ve been ridiculous for a 14.0 to not have an HMD, and this will not just be for the Rafale. The upcoming F-2A will definitely get an HMD despite it still in the process of integration irl.
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In the DEV server, the Rafale has actually gained the best high-altitude flight performances in the game ( Although the Rafale has seen reduced thrust at mid-to-low altitudes in the DEV, the simultaneous significant drag reduction results in a negligible impact on its actual flight performance.). Considering the weakened elevators of the Typhoon at high speeds, it’s currently the only fighter capable of performing rapid notch under high-altitude and high-speed conditions.
During above test=, since the F-15E consumes fuel extremely quickly in-game, taking 20 minutes of fuel load might actually be an overestimation.
It might be beneficial for the current game environment , to move some stronger 14.0 aircraft to 14.3, while promoting some powerful 13.7 aircraft to 14.0.Personally, I find it difficult to envision some 13.0 BR fighter being qualified to engage fighters like the Rafale in the next update…
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If im understanding those graphs correctly, the Rafale got a pretty massive FM buff on the dev considering it seems to have gone from one of the worst ones to top 3 overall, and outright best at very high speeds?
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Yes, the 2.43 Rafale is a low-mid altitude fighter, but the 2.44 Rafale can do everything.
During testing, to investigate the FM changes, the code for critical speed and critical Mach number was modified. The actual Rafale will be destroyed upon reaching 2.0 Mach or 1,460 kph IAS, making it impossible to truly accelerate to 1.47 Mach @SL or 2.4 Mach in high-altitude level flight. However, its acceleration performance alone is truly astonishing.
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Gonna be interesting to see if they bring that to the live server, as that appears to be an absolutely insane buff for what is already the best jet in-game.