Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

So we remove all export planes from the trees I suppose, since they are not built for the most part in the countries that use them, I imagine the immense joy of the Chinese and Italian players who have just seen their trees disappear

It’s a mix of the two, it’s not all white or all black

so why do we have 8 MICA?

A simulation, imitates a realistic interpretation of something right … and this is apparently a simulation of aircraft and ground vehicles.

Btw I am not meaning to sound rude , hope we are having a two sided open discussion!

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I dont think you got my comment right

Evidence shows 8 MICAs were tested on F-3-Rs both on domestic demonstration aircraft and for export.

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Someone has a detailed explanation of all the symbology of the HUD and HMD?

And is there a range indicator planned for the HUD?

The latter has been reported and the hud will be fixed soon.

It will include numerous new details and missing information soon

Great guys! Discussion about Micas can end.

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Great

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War Thunder is hardly a simulator. If you want to simulate every portion of the gameplay you should just switch to something like DCS or MFS. WT is mainly about gameplay balance between realism and arcade.

Making it an EH would also require model changes. In fact, india’s Rafale’s already use the IRST from F.4.1 and other features + additional sensores with unkown purpose.

Would love to see that evidence. But since you mention “export”, I guess its irrelevant anyway.

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Unfortunately I can not and I would if I could, however I am extremely grateful for this game and do not take it for granted for it is not a bad “Simulator” at all but it lacks in certain areas compared to others.

This is also the first public platform/game which simulates the Rafale which is just Wow.

I mean, it shouldnt. 8 is fine until they are fixed and they should be. Then they can be removed if balance is issue or removed from wingtips so we are forced to use magic there.

so you have considered Indian Rafale C and B F.3R : ok, fine by me

now about MICA’s Range:
Not even considered yet - sources: 2 books - 4 months ago
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/guhaDQj6ga6j

From DirectSupport
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/alf1Hlrk1Ap6
→ forwarded as suggestion (why?) - 6 months ago
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OoskoLXRLTgx
→ accepted, still not fixed - 5 months ago

if you wanted some sources, you have plenty with those 3 Bug reports, on which they seem to all agree that 50km range is currently a fake value put in place for undisclosed reasons,…

i feel like Gaijn should currently make this job prior to add the MICA SP3 Pylons., as innacuracies are currently making the MICA-EM range to be 37.5% subpar to IRL Model

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Well that is a different discussion and it’s regarding the realistic performance of the MICA-EM which it should undoubtedly get no matter what, so it is more a matter of pumping out as much legal evidence regarding it and harassing until we get it fixed.

Theres no discussion that they should behave as they do in real life.

  • Personally have 0 issues with MICA but I am open, listening, and agreeing.

Send bug reports and me and many others will upvote if it is proper.

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As mentioned above, MICA performance reports are under review. They are not connected to the x 8 loadout.

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Every playtest report about ARH was being passes as suggestion at that time. Its not special to MICA

I guess we need to remove the Mirage 4000 from the game ASAP. It was after all a Dassault aircraft that was never sold to anybody. The French Airforce never used such an aircraft…
Same for the AMX 32 and AMX 40. Since they obviously did not enter service !

The initial outcry for the 8 MICA pylons was that only testbeds used them. It was later shown that no, some F3R did test them. Dassault built and proposed 8 MICA variant, that France did not adopt until the F4. There are no major structural change between F3 and F4.1 (only F4.2 brings significant structural changes to improves it’s lifetime). Thus, according to Gaijin’s methods, 8 missiles is completely fair

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and i understood that : what i am currently suggesting is to work out this problem as MICA-EM is the ONLY missile from top tier to not have recieved it’s true max range, being held back by 37.5%

also i’m trying to discuss here, not willing to make a fuss ^^"

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