MICAs were shown in the graphs as the missiles with the worst range, wym they are “good” at long range?
At a distance from 0 to 20 km.
The distance is more than 20 km:
These are from the guy that made the Fox 3 tests right after the last balance changes to them.
Couldnt stop yourself could you? Well be my guess.
Except latest missiles changes made them actually good, in fact they perform better than Aim-120’s in close range while having acceptable long range performance, radar might be not as good as a NATO counterparts but if you cant utulize it then its your Skill issue.
As i already stated.
“Similiarly enough” except they dont reach the same ranges that Aim-120 can which means your coping doesnt work in here.
And? Its not gonna change the fact MICA will be superior to PL-12 in overall performance due to bein superior at close range and knife fights thanks to TVC.
Seems to me you’re the one who’s coping, a lot.
Yeah uhhh, I guess my meme was taken down or something lol.
Unless its just bugged on my end, but I cant find it and I didnt get any notifications saying my post was flagged
Who’s the guy who did this test and where is the source for that?
Personally i would like to see it to make sure if im wrong or not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1e6z9pc/a_change_in_rocket_dynamics_as_well_as_a/
I asked at the time if this test was legit to the other guy that made the fox3 tests (i forgot the name sadly) and he told me they were good tests.
Guest.
They’re objectively the worst all around. Nowhere near being better than the PL-12 or Derby. And never said I couldn’t utilize them.
Functionally they do. I would take 6 AAM-4’s if I could over the 120’s. The difference in range is not significant enough to give up everything else AAM-4 offers.
You said on BVR. Which was objectively false. As inconsistent as you were on the J-10 thread.
I’m not the one who’s been trying to downplay the J-10 while going on a power rant about America on two different threads. But yeah, if you say so brother.
If the post contains real datas then i was wrong about MICA’s long range performance.
Until i see different results i will accept this as an evidence, thanks for the information.
No problem, convos can be peaceful and helpful to everybody. More people should understand this.
MICAs lack:
Speed (afaik they both lack engine power AND have too much drag (all of that would help on the range capability))
Range (80km IRL)
and others stuff i don’t remember.
Just for you know, they still need some correction ingame.
Probably every missile is missing something, just bug report it and if its true they will implement it. I’m out of this convo, had enough shenanigans in the forums lately.
All that is reported (and some acknowledged if i don’t mixup), just have to cross fingers now.
I clearly stated that they are better than Aim-120’s in close range while bein okay in long range. Pl-12 or Derby might have 0-20Km performance but they dont pull as hard as R-77 in close range engagements which what makes R-77 really good in close range.
Personal preferences doesnt change the facts, if thats the case then i prefer MICA over Derby or Aim-120’s due to their TVC ability.
They will be superior on BVR due to having basically same ranges while maintaining better G overloads in distances, and as i mentioned before it is already superior to PL-12 in knife fights due to having TVC.
Seems to me you’re overhyping J-10’s capabilities while bein butthurt due to F-15’s performance, whether you accept or not F-15’s are the best platform at top tier, whats funny is you and some certain people claimed that im “USA Main” while in reality im multination player, unlike you.
Since this is typical one nation main behaviour i cant say im surprised.
did I miss it or was there no devblog today?
Exactly, as long as people approach with peaceful intentions convos can be really educational and fun.
thanks
Late to this convo but I’m not sure why this definition has become an issue. The sea meteor was capable of having guns but never did and I believe the swift f. 7 was the same. Both obviously in game.
And I didn’t deny this, friend. R-77’s only hold the advantage over PL-12 and Derby while you’re trying to knife the poor guy. Which just makes them overall worse.
Not personal preference. They both hit pretty much every target when not defended against. Neither falls out of the sky like the R-77 does. Any target AIM-120 hits, AAM-4 will too. And AAM-4 is better in pretty much every other way, makes it more useful overall.
Again, no one denied MICA was a better pick when you have to knife the dude. About the range/BVR part, dunno. Would you be able to claim the same thing while comparing it to AIM-120C5? That’s PL-12’s equivalent.
I can’t quote the last part:
Now you’re just assuming, and wrong. I didn’t ‘overhype’ anything or claim anything about the J-10 in here or in that thread. Neither said anything about F-15? While you were in both threads, and trying to downplay the aircraft and the missiles for no apparent reason. Kind of a bad look, no? I do play multiple nations, pretty much all of them except UK, Israel and US. But again, alright.
so many French vehicles & variants … can easily add 1 per update and will still not run out of vehicles to add … and yet Gaijin still fails
They don’t fail, actually, as in order to fail, you need to try.