Dance of Dragon - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

The game still isn’t ready for them
There is so little counters aside from notching which is only so fun until you hate it

Nobody did ask for switzerland. The first time i heard about that was a few weeks ago. Then some crapy hype mashine got started and now some one trys to make it look like it was a “long anticpated” happening.

I am sorry. But from all nations that could end as sub that would have any historical and miltary conection to germany in tne odern and past switzerland of all nations. A nutral nation that is not paricpating in any wars at all. Just stop. Its so illogical it hurts.

Probably
If it comes with more modern missiles it’s airframe starts to matter less and less generally

They’ve been waiting for quite a bit longer than that, my friend. Every ‘top tier’ they’ve been given for the last 3 or 4 major updates have been inferior to other nation’s top tiers and therefore a .3 br lower than the rest.

Well… I think Devs would dread hearing from him, he would get right into the nuts and bolts of the thing ^^

Yeah… have to wait and see…
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but yeah, im curious where it will end up

It kinda gets complicated with our F-111s… there are about a dozen different versions and configurations of the F-111C… and then it can also depend on the date they have picked for A8-129, since I mentioned F/RF-111C AUP, and that was RAAF reconnaissance variant… but she would have started out as a standard F-111C at some point in her life

But… yeah, thats if they have picked the exact version that A8-129 represents in the first place, since the serial may not mean anything, like it is just a default camouflage for what ever version that have picked for the aircraft

So, have to wait and see what version they have picked for the RAAF F-111C…

Like I said, there are about a dozen configurations to pick from ^^
FB-111C, was intended for strategic bombing
RF-111C, weapon bay reconnaissance pallet
F-111C AUP, RAAF strike variant
FB-111C AUP, RAAF strategic bomber
RF-111C AUP, RAAF reconnaissance variant
CF-111C fitted for Pave Tack, based on the original F-111C

Thats just a few ^^

The original F-111Cs were basically just F-111As with wings and undercarriage from FB-111A… so, that means based on the strategic bomber configuration with longer wings

so… yeah have to see what they pick ^^

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There has been dozens of threads, perticuarly since last major update but German mains have been looking for a new top tier CAS aircraft since early 2023. For a while it was Argentinian F-16s

Then I hope its damage model includes every single nut and bolt :P

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no they dont you clown because that plane is too damn good still

there’s a reason the Su-35, EF2000 Tranche 1, Rafale C Early, J-11B, F/A-18C aren’t in game still-

The Su-35 isn’t even remotely comparable to the rest, and none of the others are too powerful for the game.

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I would honestly say closer to the Feb-Mar or the May-Jun updates imo. Depends how they implement the weapon loadouts, The game isn’t really ready for the fancy AAMs, but in the current meta a Typhoon wouldn’t bring more than an improved radar and suitability suite, not much dog fighting from my experience.

I can’t lie, I’m incredibly disappointed that this update was full on electronic warfare and jamming to make the state of top tier air somewhat bare able

dude… the Rafale, EF2000, and J-11B would eviscerate top tier unless their loadouts were gimped… and even still they’d massacre it

this is why gaijin doesn’t listen to your suggestions. You people have no concept of just how strong that .5 is in Gen 4.5 that’s why the water is being tested with the J-10A arguably the worst Gen 4.5 they could’ve chosen without resorting to a niche one like the Tejas

Edit: The Typhoon is a damn monster… that’s why it’s not in the game. If it was ready for the game, Gaijin would add it in a heart beat because it means they could just scrape by for Italy, Germany, and Britain by copy pasting the same plane every other update.

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Its not that big of a leap over what we’ve got currently. F-15C MSIP II is probably the slightly better BVR aircraft, especially if it got a later radar that was AESA.

Really wouldnt take much to put other nations on par with things like the Su-30.

And Typhoon could use missiles we already have in game like Aim-9Li and Aim-120Bs. So not much of an advantage there. Most of its ECM systems wouldnt be modeled.

cuz afaik russia has no gaps correct me if im wrong but russia has so many vehicles that are either prototypes that not only can fill gaps but there is barely any gaps to count

A Mirage 2000-5F with better flight performance and a better radar, but not so much as to be overpowered.

Similar to previous.

A J-11 with PL-8s and PL-12s.

There would be nothing overpowered about them with the F-15C flying around.

once again, this very reductive view of things is why gaijin doesn’t listen to peoples advice on additions, they make their own choices.

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Later variants, yes. The Tranche 1, no.

the Tranche 1 yes-
The Tranche 1 is still far better than the J-10A which is only just now being added…
It is LEAGUES better than the Gripen C
It is miles better than the 16C

The airframe is really good yeah but how much will it matter when your missiles are so hard to beat

Why? What does it have that out-classes something like the F-15C MSIP II?