I already said it in different thread, it is very clearly supposed to supplement TOR/HQ17 as SHORAD.
Fair enough I guess.
But then you get IR only missiles, with only 20G pull (which will never hit a top tier jet) and allaspect lock-on range of 9km (which i hardly believe it will achieve due to how warthunder models IR signatures)
And it sits ABOVE TOR/HQ17.
I mean whats the point?
This thing should be around same BR as Tunguska if that, depending on whats the real lock-on range of the missiles.
Perhaps our friends in the West or Russia can understand that certain outcomes are inevitable given the gap in the foundation of our electronics and information industry. If there are preconceived biases or positioning issues, they should be completely eliminated or deprioritized—not used to disgust Chinese players here.
Oh wow its that bad?
Ive seen bad implementations (example : hellfires a few years back) , but this takes the No1 spot for worst missile implementation.
The CS/SA5’s capabilities are clearly mismatched for a 12.0 battle rating. More critically, this vehicle’s performance has not been authentically recreated at all - it merely replicates the visual appearance, while its operational capabilities are fundamentally inconsistent with historical accuracy and tier-appropriate standards.
compare to AIM C7 of the CLAWS fired from the ground the FB10A has a good energy maintenance but well we already know the problems (20G + strong loft + non-optimal trajectory, IRCM messed up, etc ect) the bad points are too numerous for it to be considered as a good missile but it has qualities, insensitive to the flare of the helicopters but sensitive to the scent of the planes… the loft allows to hit from above the helicopters which try to hide with the relief (but of course the losse is too pronounced) + the fact of its weak strong point acceleration and a sustainer allows it to degrade its speed less
I’m not looking for excuses for this missile, it’s still bad for its Br, but I notice that there are things to learn from it.
Yeah, it seems that the majority of the new SPAA are just far stronger than other 12.0 i kinda hoped they’d all be near identical strength wise. Unfortunately i fear gaijin will say x nation got a spaa and don’t need a new spaa and ignore them despite their SPAA being essentially useless. Ive played a few matches so far trying to get the Claw and my Tan Sam Kai and ive yet to see a SA5 or Elde do anything useful because they lack range or the missiles just cant keep up with their contemporaries, honestly its in such a bad state id rather people stop pulling them because they are a waste of a player when we have any other spaa up which is unfortunate cause id like all spaa to be decent.
yes, with the matches that I was able to play I noticed that the victory ratio of the USA in Israel considerably decreased necessarily at the beginning of the game 1/3 of the team takes out one of these new SPAA which makes less armor against the Russian wave, result every time that I was with the USA I was sure to lose the game… and all that for what in the end to shoot down 1 or 2 planes because now people know what to expect and it gives games where you have 4 guys in CLAWS who do not block do nothing, do not attack nor defend literally 12 vs 16,
We could also talk about the KH38 which still breaks games and the SPAA in the end are not even good at destroying them I do almost better with my AHEAD ammunition
I have the impression that we are witnessing the death of the top tier and that everyone will go back to Br as it becomes less and less playable in the top
Friends, visit my topic and you will find out that the FB-10A missiles are not only infrared but also must be radio command as parl even Wikipedia has about it
Wikipedia is not a source, just saying. Thankfully we do have brochures, but it runs in the issue of there’s no IR + DL in game (and I honestly no idea how to actually this can be modeled, beyond just copying ARH mechanic and replacing radar homing with IR)
Yup. Truer words have never been spoken. Gaijin has consistently proven the systematic underperformance of Chinese vehicles. Even the ZTZ99A has been plagued by typical Gaijin errors since its release. We had the DTC10-125 scandal, and then the spall liners (which has been accepted for the ZTZ99A but is yet to be implemented), and a plethora of modeling errors.
And oh boy, the CS/SA5 is just salt on the wound. They outright refuse to correctly model the FB-10 missiles. This thing is supposed to be 12.0? What a joke. In its current state it is a pile of burning hot garbage.
Gaijin is literally baiting classified information at this point. Why doesn’t Gaijin provide sources? Why are they so critical when they can’t even do it themselves? There is not a single source out there that says the FB-10 does not have radio command guidance and IIR. Naturally, Gaijin allows obscure Russian documents to slip past but then draw the line on the FB-10? Real fun stuff.
