Today I would like to talk about the new Chinese anti-aircraft gun CS/SA5 ( type 625E) , especially its top missiles FB-10A. The missiles do not capture helicopters from 4-5 km and attack drones. The missiles in the game do not correspond to their real counterparts.
The FB-10A missiles have the following characteristics: launch mode - inclined, hot launch, guidance system - radio command ( DATALINK system) + thermal imaging homing head, minimum firing range - 1 km, maximum firing range - 17 km, minimum altitude - 20 m, maximum altitude - 7500 m.
More details about the FB-10 missile:
Purpose:
Designed to destroy air targets at low and medium altitudes.
Guidance system:
Uses radio command guidance, and at the final section of the trajectory - a thermal imaging homing head.
Range:
The minimum firing range is 1 km, and the maximum is 17 km.
Height:
Can hit targets at altitudes from 20 meters to 7,500 meters.
Warhead:
Consists of two blocks, each containing four ready-to-launch missile containers.
Application:
Can be used to combat various air targets, including unmanned aerial vehicles.
Features:
A distinctive feature is the use of a thermal imaging homing head, which allows you to effectively hit targets in a complex jamming environment.
This missile must have not only infrared guidance but also radio command guidance similar to PARL missiles. That is, we must keep the target in a tight radar lock and in case of loss of the target, the thermal head of the missile itself must already work. This anti-aircraft gun is useless against helicopters and attack drones, as it can only be captured from 4-5 kilometers. Shrapnel shells are only effective from 2 kilometers or less.
THANKS TO CHINESE FRIENDS FOR DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT FB-10A MISSILES AND FOR THE CS/SA5 AA GUN ITSELF I HOPE I WILL NOT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CHINA. I LOVE CHINA!!! Community Bug Reporting System
Current testing confirms the FB10A modification cannot achieve effective kills beyond 10km, and the missile physically cannot travel to its designated 18km range.
Even the manufacturer-provided specifications can be dismissed by issue manager as “unreliable third-party sources”. Given that, the wiki materials you’ve listed here are also unlikely to be accepted as valid references on this platform.
Then make it SACLOS initially, and have the IIR seeker turn on approx ~1-2km away from the target and take over guidance, which at this range it would be difficult to flare. The TOR and HQ-17 ingame can already engage two different targets simultaneously, so there should be no technical bottleneck.
What’s funny is that the radar on the CS/SA5 is modelled to provide datalink for 8 targets at once, yet it doesn’t do anything in the game since the missile is only IR-guided currently. Gaijin has no reason not to make this datalink guidance function actually work with the missiles unless they don’t want to model the CS/SA5 accurately on purpose, which is what I believe. They’ve made millions of excuses already, such as “machine translation” or they believe update command is not datalink.
Yeah but that is indeed a new thing, if we ask for DL though this will be just a SLM style thing requiring no suggestion. But issue is we can’t just deduce command update as ‘SACLOS’ cause it inherently isn’t and they didn’t accept it as DL cause it was ‘guesswork’
The performance gap between the FB-10 and FB-10A in the game is currently appalling. The missile’s overload is too low; even in head-on engagements, fourth-generation fighters can easily dodge the missile with a simple barrel roll. How is it that the FB-10A, with a 160mm warhead diameter, has a mere 1.2kg of explosives? While the Pantsir’s 95Ya6 missile, with a 90mm diameter, boasts a hefty 5.5kg?
Furthermore, Chinese defense vendors clearly showcase on their official websites that the FB-10 and FB-10A missiles feature composite guidance beyond IIR (Infrared Imaging Guidance), specifically updated command guidance. Even if it’s uncertain whether it’s SACLOS (Semi-Automatic Command to Line Of Sight) + IR, it should at the very least be implemented as IR + datalink guidance. The current FB-10A lacks even basic imaging guidance and has no datalink capability. Even the oldest Russian Strela-10 SAM can lock onto helicopters using imaging guidance, yet the latest FB-10 and FB-10A are helpless against helicopters at just 4km. This bias is utterly disgusting.
Additionally, why does Gaijin think its maximum speed is only 725 m/s? Also, the implementation of the new US Humvee AA vehicle’s 9X and 120C7 missiles is extremely disappointing; their speed can’t even keep up with advanced fourth-generation fighters.
I cannot imagine anyone who would know their product better than the manufacturer, just like a mother knows her child better than anyone else. To deny the information provided by the manufacturer is a prejudice and arrogance on the part of the community manager. This information should be taken seriously
The current performance of the CS/SA5 in the game has proved truly disappointing. The FB10A’s capabilities are grossly inconsistent with reality, despite many players generously providing extensive data during beta testing. Yet only a handful of suggestions were implemented, and even data verified by multiple sources were dismissed.
