Yeah I corrected myself and the thread
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IK, this forum especially when it involves a vehicle in the “big three” can be very claiming of things from one nations own modification of a vehicle being no different to another if it benefits them. just wanted that to be clear
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The F16AM has more than just a bol pod, is a PIDS pylon, it has an included maws, and was designed by terma a danish company, those pylons cant carry missiles and the trade off is the f16AM doesnt get a radar hms
Its only the syrian and hungarian su22m3 that have fewer countermeasures than all others, but they have significantly more thrust
Yeah idk why the new finnish f18 needs 1280 countermeasures its kinda hilarious
Yeah it’s mostly Western fighters that are missing it.
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I believe its the additional countermeasures from the mig23ml
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Well I mean all modern and export besides the Swiss F/A-18 (I believe) are compatible with those BOL and I think possibly the PIDS (But that just might be the Super hornet)
It is they just super glued them on lol.
Doesn’t really matter to me. As long as BOL gets unnerfed and they’re realistically implemented to all compatible aircraft.
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Then you want what I want.
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sort of, at least when its the Saab BOL pods specifically. Saab themselves only claim their CM systems are on F15s, F/A-18, Jas39, Eurofighter and a couple other airframes as of October last year, Historically they appeared on harriers and a few extras but as they arent really in service nowadays they don’t boast about them.
I don’t really know for other aircraft such as the F16, F2 or anything from the soviet bloc what extra countermeasure dispensers were used.
I just want them added iykwim. I feel like it would be better for the planes that get them juts to get them now even more so with the new AA.
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more countermeasures is gonna be vital in the future, whether extra CM pods stay practically worthless like BOL currently is or not
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Change title to countermeasures pods or BOL and other countermeausre pods then
Ok did it but then we also got to talk about a lot of lower BR things missing later in life counter measures
The US tested their own LAU-138 BOL launchers on the F-18C, so BOL is NOT a unique Finnish modification…still waiting on a response for the US to get it, since my report was marked as duplicate despite new sources presented and the previous report is sitting in limbo as accepted since the US F-18s were added.
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Argue that with Smin, again i can link the artificial differences post if you want to argue with Smin over that. It explains why some vehicles dont get accepted like the SAAF Gripen C not getting AIM 120 even if it can use them.
Also Smin answered that the LAU tests with the US weren’t valid enough iirc, Quartas asked earlier
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Absolutely infuriating that they refuse to give the F-18C BOL pods it should have, but then pull moves like giving Japan’s F-15 AIM-120s they only tested a few times…seemingly always the US getting the short end of the stick when it comes to ordnance used in service, trialed or prototyped (like missing LJDAMs, AH-1F’s flare dispenser, F-16C’s inner pylon for dual LGBs and PIDS pylons, F-15 BOL as well etc.)
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Not that they weren’t enough, that there wasn’t sufficient confirmation they actually got evaluated/integrated in the end
I don’t remember everything he said but yeah thanks for clearing that up
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