I’ve made a dozen suggestions…
NONE have ever made it through moderation.
Another broken system by gatekeepers to the game.
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LOL. No… And there needs to be a penalty for it. Same amount as for a Team kill. + 20 minutes of blocking the Aircraft to spawn.
Jing out is the last Option for every pilot. If u bail out inside enemy airspace, you are in real trouble. No pilot ever would do it, like you see it in Sim.
And yes. It´s Sim. It simulates real live… And that´s why you do not J out like it´s a nice tactic to avoid a kill or get a fast travel back to your airfield.
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Yeah… you misspelled ‘lame’… it doesn’t start with an ‘e’.
When a player ‘out skills’ me by taking my wing tip, I try to kill him before he finishes me off. When he ‘out skills’ me by taking my wing I take to the trees and drag him all the way to the AF AA…
What I NEVER do, is J-out…
It’s lame AND boring…
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Cool, but you are not all the experienced pilots. You’re just some internet rough guy trying to sound cool. I know people who will ground themselves the second a fighter tries to shoot their bomber. I’ve J’d out on the runway when some loser tries to strafe me. Sim is filled with people that will ground themselves the second they see someone on their six. We are all toxic pricks.
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No, they are a person actually trying to maximize their gameplay and INTRINSIC FUN by trying their best to shift the ratio of passive, ungengaging gameplay to favour highly active, stressful but very rewarding gameplay.
By fighting to the bitter end, even if all it results in is setting up campsite on the rudder to keep your plane from slamming into the ground and fighting it all the way to the air field where you try your best to land - you have massively increased the amount of intrinsically rewarding, active fun time of gameplay.
Lose both ailerons?
- J out now and now I have to take off, climb to altitude, check map, fly to potential positions of enemy fighters, strike craft and bombers to engage. Finally engage them. Most of this is low action to fun ratio, which is fine in sim because it adds to the intensity of when you finally engage opponents. However, just because it is fine…
- Realize your engine is also leaking oil all over. Try not to panic. Begin dancing on your rudder to try and control roll rate without introducing too much drag to get back to airfield ASAP while checking oil pressure to make sure you’ve got time.
Proceed to enter a landing pattern to bleed your altitude as you cannot slip to do so.
Finally make it down and see your engine kicking the bucket
You just extended your previous life with hectic and super engaging, fun gameplay.
You feel proud of your rudder skills.
You’re also exhausted.
Not J-ing out increases your intrinsic fun & intrinsic reward by introducing more things to do without routine intermission.
Not J-ing out doesn’t make you an “internet tough guy trying to sound cool.”
It makes you a person who values intrinsic rewards (sense of satisfaction for doing your best) and intrinsic fun (the inherent act of flying the plane under non-ideal non-routine conditions that is highly stimulating.)
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Buddy, no one cares.
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You clearly do.
Spoiler
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Wow, you had to look through months of texts. I wish I cared as much as you.
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Look, I enjoy the fun sometimes. Barely living, and the satisfaction I get when I land. However, 90% of my gameplay is purely grinding. When I used to run Sim lobbies, I bombed and ran back. I could have cared less about everyone else, I wanted my money. I took off, bombed a base, and went back and waited until Useful Actions. I didn’t care about sweating my balls off just for something I could get by turning my brain off, playing music, and enjoying the scenery.
I care because you admit to the kind of behaviour that ruins an entire game mode.
You should play the game for sake of playing the game (intrinsic motivation), not extrinsic motivations.
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Eh, depends really. In Sim I’ll do it. Realistic, depending on the circumstances, I’ll fight until the end
I don’t play airrb but saw players with ridiculous stats in their prop like 80 deaths and 1200 kills, did they master the art of picking only the fights they could win, else they just return to the air field and J out? I’m pretty sure I would be having more deaths in PVE against bots than these guys in PVP. So how one manage a 15kd
did you even read the comment I was replying to?
" [quote=“hinjanattori, post:10, topic:245261”]
Even experienced players eject to deny kills to enemies who out-skill them.
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I can kind of understand why noobs (like you) would do it, but not people who actually enjoy the game (if that’s possible :p).
I regularly play strikers and occasionally play bombers and the whole time I’m just hoping I will get attacked to break the sheer monotony… flying down the river canyons and under bridges in a bomber as you attempt to shake off a fighter is some of the best fun you can have…
Low chance of success, HIGH chance of fun… and the longer you live the closer you get to your UA pop up.
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Big part is probably squad-only gameplay.
Prop dynamics change massively if you have reliable wingmen and good communication. Suddenly you turn planes that seem “horrible for the meta” into monstrous things because IRL they were built with teamwork and coordination in mind.
It’s very blatant with americans (insane speed) vs japs (sitting duck). Suddenly p47s start beating zeros if p-47s have good comms and teamwork.
Fighting against a squadron of oiled pilots is a nightmare. Even starting with a fair 1 vs 1, their wingmen are bound to be in range to save them.
My most extreme experience on the squadron side was recently in a stock fw190A8 encountering a spitfire F Mk IX. Guaranteed death, yeah?
All it took was calling out my position, diving and being told what manoeuvres to do by my wingman and the spitfire went down while I RTB’d to base. This was an unusual impromptu occasion due to D-day event forcing me to join VC so I’m not even practiced in formation stuff, but I’ve been on the receiving end of this kind of “one person lures the poor sucker into the easiest shot for friendly” more than enough to confidently attribute high KDR partially to this.
The other part is as you said - check who is present and if it looks like you’re at risk, leave ASAP.
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And that´s why there is a report button “passive behavior”
J-out and or ground your plane to avoid getting killed is “passive behavior”
Maybe Gaijin should add Bases Airfields and Ground targets that J out every time they see a player coming for them…
Just think about it… If every1 would J out to avoid getting killed, would the game be better or worse???
As the answer clearly is “worse”, J out is a thing you can and should be banned for…
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Why would I waste my time? No one is checking those reports…
If there are enough reports about a player, they do. It takes 20 seconds of your time
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“Additionally, 469 accounts have been banned for a week or longer for intentional teamkilling, ramming and griefing.”
You do know that GMs are just players who volunteer? Expecting someone to sit through a 3 hour game (even on x16 speed) to see someone j-out isn’t going to happen. Their game could have crashed.
Try reporting dozens of people for obvious aimbotting only for nothing to ever happen and you’ll realise reporting bad players is a waste of time…
I did.
Just make it as in RB, that works.
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Just found the Rule to it:
Gaijin Game Rules
- UNSPORTING CONDUCT
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6.1.4. Other actions that violate the principle of fair play.
So if he Jes out to avoid getting killed, he violates this rule.
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