Complet one sided battles in Air SB @11.0

How do you and some other American players constantly have the worst take ever?

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F-14A? I believe you mean to say 11.7.

For which your post is semi-wrong.
USSR: Mig-23MLD is indeed your primary choice.
However, there is also Italy, Japan, Germany, and China.
Japan: EJ Kai.
China: JH-7A… so bombing primarily.
Italy: Tornado ADV.
Germany: Mig-23MLA.

Or France and Sweden instead of Japan and Italy:
France: Mirage 2000C.
Sweden: Viggen D.

Currently, sim is 11.3 max as well, so F-14As aren’t present, which leaves F-4J.
Against F-4J you have the listed potential threats:
Mig-23, Mirage F-1CT, Viggen D, China gets nothing really, F-5E FCU for Japan.

R-60 with double the FOV does make it more prone to being flared. Have you even played planes that use the R-60?

It’s harder to see, reducing time response, and with the IRCCM in place its more than just 0 experience, and considering USSR aircraft have less cockpit visibility…

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Yes. Redfor has been absent from sim for months because they didn’t have the best missile, the 9M. That and woefully inadequate flight models and avionics.

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In sim, IRCCM is less useful, and 9M isn’t “the best” missile as there is no “the best”.
On top of that, the flight models of aircraft are all good, especially for sim where the differences matter less.

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All missiles without IRCCM is very easy to flare, skill issue on you.

Well, if these predictions reducing brain time responce… theres nothing to do.

Just get some course correction, what’s wrong?

Same as bringing statcard.

Just had Italy and Japan, yes, didnt have…

Btw, most of ppl died to 9M - their mistake, that they cant predict such easy thing

The 27ER was the best SARH missile, but it was never once a meta missile during its “reign.” That entire period was defined by strong multipathing and the dominance of fox-2 combat.

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Well, kind of true.
But, always was possible to hit target from 70 deg upwards, and mostly give some crits/kill
So it was not powerfull, as it might be with reduced multipath

Dominating with 9L/60M/MM2/others, well
That might be if enemy is blind enough, but on other cases - not really.
All missiles was too easy to flare

But the R-60 is ESPECIALLY easy to flare. While the other missiles can sometimes ignore flares, that is NEVER for the R-60.

Excuse me? The missile is already out, so you have less time to respond by the time you spot it, and IF you spot it because its not reduced smoke, its NO SMOKE. When did I say brain time response? Are you kidding me?

Because now along with not being able to see the missile effectively, even if you flare you’ll still have to waste time getting out of the missile’s path. You CLEARLY haven’t fought against AIM-9Ms, trust me, you’re just here to defend your nation.

What else are we supposed to bring??? Now you don’t believe in statcards?

Absolute opposite, it makes scoring kills easier because even if the enemy spots the missile, they’ll have to work more in order to dodge it. If they dont have enough time, its over for them.

60 flares aren’t ENOUGH to be simply popping them each time I think the enemy is gonna launch a missile, otherwise you’d run out of flares within a single dogfight. Plus, the one in the MiG-29 (WHICH IS UP IN 12.0) arent even large caliber. They’re just standard caliber.

So my invitation is to hop on a Soviet fighter, like the MiG-23MLD, and try to survive while popping flares each time you’re in AIM-9M range. You’ll see why the battles become one-sided

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Even 9B can ignore flares.

You doesnt need to spot it by eyes, just predict that.

Theres nothing else can have time responce in this situation.

Basicly it reduced, you still can notice trail, but thats hard and might be possible not at all maps.

Just fought against Japan and Italy(actually Hungary in that case). Ofc they havent option to mount 9M(for japan also AAM-3).

Statcard tells for specific altitude and speed.
Theres some datamine based sites, that can do all calculation for you, to bring them. Like a start alt is 200 meters, speed is 500 km/h and it will make a graph.

Use your SA, to understand when you need to use some flares, btw, 60 is enough(on tomcat, lol), but not the easiest gameplay.

Well, comparing old added planes not best thing, but kind of true.
Theres nothing to do with that, only by using experience and skill

Actually MLD doesnt face good 9M carriers
And have decent rwr which also can save from an 9M carrier

Because of its low FOV. How many times do I have to tell you that the R-60 goes for flares because of its FOV being extremely huge?
Every single flare will always come into view for an extended period of time

With 60 flares? No way.

I refer to time response as the the period between the missile being launched and the pilot acting to dodge the missile accordingly. With a smokeless motor, since the missile becomes almost invisible guessing is the only option. And with 60 flares there’s not much room for guessing.

Except that you have more flares. The thing is that large caliber or not, all the 9M sees is a flare, so larger calibers will only make it worse due to worsening the flare count.

Still, the launch range goes from 50km for the R-24R to 100km for the AIM-7F. Regardless of conditions that number is clearly pointing to a more effective range. And you carry more than 2

Thing is, with 30G overload there’s plenty of room for firing, and 60 might be enough for you’d have to return to base after each engagement because the 60 flares were all used. Not ideal.

so the F-16C isn’t good?

It’ll help with SA, but not with 9Ms.

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4 and 5, near to 0 difference in result of that.

Somehow i managed to do that with tomcat against harrier, using only radar

If pilot have enough experience - not a lot of time

Same in tomcat, which hotter btw

In tornado i used only 2 flares, from 3 normal i use
And that still worked

And now, find a battle, where you will ba able to use that 50km gap.

Each missile 3 flare

Now in game no rotation, where 11.3 faces 13.0.(maybe, a lot of time ago that was, idk),

And SA helps with 9M, yes

Bro. This _qq is from the RU forum. He mains the F-14. I know him. He will talk nonsense just to protect his superiority. Come on, there’s no point in discussing with him.

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You are absolutely right. And it’s not a skill issue. You will read many statements that this is not true from players who at all times and in all games play only with imbalanced guns and vehicles, only with an unfair advantage. This is the category of players who are prone to cheating. They always support each other and protect the broken balance. You can meet them on the forum of any game. I’ve seen this many times, in many games.

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Funny, ha-ha.

Ofc, prediction is nonsense.

Redforce primarily relies on Mirage2000C on this BR bracket.
And good luck if France is on the same side of US.
Soviet needs something at 11.7.

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Yes, but there also EJ Kai, that can beat in bvr, tbh italian tornado can

Btw, discussion already useless - BRs already updated

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