They will add each and every possible copy paste to the French tree too. An independent tree would allow us to actually get new vehicles and they spend some actual time on what they introduce to BeNeLux
The point is that if they’re not going to be adding unique vehicles to the BeNeLux subtree (where it takes up space in the French tree where unique French designs could go), then why not take the extra step and have it as a separate tree
And how many times have people said the exact same thing right before they add something busted to GRB
G’day, late comment here, gonna make a bit of a paragraph…
Seems odd to make it into system that requires a new item to halt resets of 48 hours, why not just allow it to never reset? I’ve personally played for over a decade but could never gain a streak past 81 days (closest now is 63 days as of now) with most reasons due to being out of my control. I’ve no chance of later decals even now, but why make a new item to have, just seems like a bit of wasted effort for what could be simply a system that never resets.
Guessing this is to be a predecessor base model to the variant in game? If so a better amphibian would be fun although poorer armour.
Rather excited for this, a dutch machine that’s from my understanding a different radar to the Flakpanzer Gepard 1, although wishful thinking is that the french tree receives a french design TT wise while this is either foldered, premium or squidron based.
Japan once again eating well for more various low BR attackers, although them being almost close existing items simply swapped over seems sad, but more attackers are better for lineup filler that’ll be helpful in combined arms modes, mmm 3.7 NF gonna be stacked for foreign aircraft designs (wish they’d get some ships tbh, some could already come for Indonesia).
Hmm, cluster munitions, time to scream for Eagle 1 clusters in WT now, as all the teams run for fear. Hmm now this might be a longshot, but could this eventually lead to the addition of the soviet PTAB bombs, sure not a cluster, but a whole lot of small bombs.
Well this is excellent, I’ve waited for the expansion of wing loaded bombs for Mosquito FB aircraft, many of the icon pictures, films, games, models show them with these bombs.
Now the Martlet confuses me, this could’ve been easily saved for a note in the patchnotes vs something mentioned in this sort of post. How many concurrent players even have a martlet? How many are even seen used these days? Only possibility I see is if a new TT ones is coming for the FAA line.
I wonder how long until someone tries to speed something through that doughnut ringhole? =CLANS= Big_Furny suggests an R3 armoured car for the challenge (as per dispatches with them yesterday).
I already dread some clones, especially if the latter is yet another Schnellboot (unless it’s to be say VS-5 in anticipation of submarines, VS-5 was a semi-submersible motor boat armed with two 2 cm autocannons & several torpedoes, it looked like a shoe sailing backwards). As much as I do love motor boats, these BP’s for “coastal” do need some heavy ships as rewards like the many bluewater ships within the coastal trees already, even if made to be Rank IV non premiums (akin for what the Voroshilov was).
I hate this, why doesn’t “true” have a capital “T” if “Dreams” & “Come” have capitals?
Still let me guess another aircraft/tank? I kinda wish you guys would whip out some insane obscure mad designed ship for a DCT event, something like an As designed Battlecruiser/Large Light Cruiser HMS Furious (2×1 18") or heh the flatiron gunboat Castore (1×1 16"), both of which carried the biggest guns for their types of ships.
Might be baffling thing to ask, but why not just run it at the same time? Not exactly impatient but it always feels like vessel events get postponed for other events to much. This also fills me with dread for another motor boat clone like past events or will be the most badic thing but without the bells & whistles that would make it great (recent example the Event Trident class PG, that was in a coast guard refit without AGM armament). Wishful thinking dictates a Pegasus class Hydrofoil, the other Cyclone class PG in the files which is in a later refit or hell sticking with trends of Coast Guard equipment a Hamilton class cutter…
I swear but wasn’t that thing what the CM Scarper had as a PFP on the old forum? It looks far to familiar or was it yourself Stona that had this as a PFP?
Ohh great so now quoting the pictures work, damn it… well that model has been sitting in the files for a bit, just used mainly for youtube shorts ever so often.
I wonder, has that Type VII gone through any remodels since 2023? Also out of recent conversations with another user, they mentioned it was a chimera of vessels. Will it come to the game like the IJA Type 5 is or will it be left to the scrap heals like the MS.74 Series 2A an disappear from the game if it’s infact a mix of several submarines?
Heh, I’m for submarines, for I can use better tactics to counter capital ships in RB NF EC & I’m against them in the form of my many many ASW warships I’ve researched over the years, Like this:
I hope it gets its torpedoes operational as ASW Homing torpedoes & that the RUR-5 on it becomes operational, ohh yeah!! Submarines will have a rude awakening for ASW armament
No shit. All the more reason why your idea is nonsensical. The drip feed content industry works by, well, drip feeding content (the clue is in the name). If Gaijin has decided that this update France doesn’t get, say, an AMX-based addition, they can always, always find a way to give you some filler while you wait for more (another Chaffee, an M46 for the tech tree etc, all of it French and yet all of it copy paste).
Because nobody would play it.
The game has too many independent TTs as it is. Almost nobody plays Israel (myself included) and the playerbase of Italy and France is tiny compared to the Big Three (and Italy used to be much worse before the arrival of Hungary etc).
Even Korea I’m very sceptical about, but we’ll see. For now, Israel has taught everyone a lesson in the nonexistent popularity of delapidated trees.
There’s a reason sub trees have been the focus for the past few years.

I play all trees like the Snail intended.

You’re always free to go to the suggestions page, only a minority would be lend-lease/C&P:
- BeNeLux (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg) Air Forces Techtree
- BeNeLux (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg) Ground Forces Techtree
- BeNeLux Bluewater Tech Tree【Suggestion】
- BeNeLux Coastal Tech Tree【Suggestion】
- BeNeLux Helicopter Tech Tree【Suggestion】
isnt the first or last time a german vehicle is probably fake, yet has higher odds than a lot of real vehicles to get added.
Just like every other filthy nazi that didnt end up facing a figurative or literal wall, Ferdinand Porsche was a real fanatic for the reich much more than most yet he got away scot-free with it as if he was Wernher von Braun. There’s a whole genre of books that can be described as “Nazi pretends the reich was more advanced than it really was”.
Its standing about as legitimate as the SLA engine being fitted to one in questionable-if-real modifications i guess. I think it would be much more interesting than an SLA engine too.
You can doubt if you want, but to this day we have an enormous disparity in playerbase size between the Big Three and everybody else, with Israel being the worst off by some margin. A BeNeLux tree would not fare better than the other minor trees.
closest ive found is an illustration, but it is so well drawn it could have been made from tracing photographs and well fleshed out schematics
Yup. Long list of 'em, and their crappy autobiographies have done much to poison the well. I still get angry every time I think about how Speer got off scot free.
Anyways…
At least the JT with a Sla engine actually ran, if only for four hours, and the test is documented, as is the capture by the Soviets. So by WT standards a perfectly real vehicle to add at least.
When the devs are determined to make ground battles for people who play tanks even worse…they add MITL for heli’s and cluster bombs…Time for a tank only mode more than ever GRB is about to get f*cked
Yeah when will france finally ve getting an actual french design again for ground forces??? It’s been so damn long.
Responding to the edit.
I also play all trees (except Israel). I am slowly spading my way through every ground, air & naval vehicle in every tree between 1.0 and 7.7 (not really interested in modern stuff).
But our individual habits are besides the point.
The distribution of players among various trees is so unequal that I consider it literally unhealthy for the game.
Not enough people play the smaller trees and realise how good they have it in the Big Three with the big stacked lineups. Opinions on balance become warped because you only ever see one side of the competitive equation.
And then you have the chorus every update, with people saying they don’t care about X addition, what about MY tree? What are WE getting? When are you gonna fix this particular thing which I care about inordinately? Etc etc
The grind doesn’t help either, as a lot of players stick to one tree only.
I think it is a priority to promote the TTs the game already has, make people try new things. Beefing up the existing TTs is much more important than adding new ones imho. And in that light, long live the BeNeLux sub tree for France.
Hopefully the nicer fighter bomber canopy on the J30 Mosquito can also be pasted over to the other FB Mosquitoes if the models are being worked on in this manner.
crazy work LOL
Will it include Czech made rockets and Polish fuel tanks or is it too soon to tell?
It’d be disappointing to be missing its unique features, but this happened before on the Mi-35P for Indonesia so I’d rather ask sooner than later.
what about the russian bias? are you going to reduce it or what?
they completly destroyed jump physics, cant have anything nice things with gaijin
Technically the EMBT was French (or part French) but I agree with the overall point, there’s been very little in the way of Actual French ground content for the past two years, and it’s not like the French don’t have 100’s of designs that could be added
4 British tanks in the past year 🥀. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when fans of British ground vehicles can essentially expect a single vehicle once every 2 updates.

