Now that infantry is confirmed, can we get the SD 2?:
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I believe cluster bombs are long over due. I don’t think the game would have trouble computing dozens or hundreds of bomblets landing, you can already dump insane amounts of cannon shells, rockets, and even some very large quantities of traditional iron bombs. And as far as balance is concerned, pylons could be limited or spawn costs could simply be increased. We already have planes that can erase multiple cap points in game. These would required direct hits and not just delete tanks via overpressure.
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The IL-2 would be a great first plane to add these bombs to, in the form of PTABS.
Or the Tonkas MW-1 / JP233
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That would also be fair given the Tornadoes lackluster performance at the moment.
Not sure if you had the chance to read this:
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Yeah, they are okay, not bad but not good either. But what they need is gameplay buffs more than anything else
imagine they give US an F-4E late with 65Ds and cluster bombs
Are those really ‘cluster bombs’ or just individual tiny bombs in their own tiny wing bomb bay? I think that you might be thinking of the SD 2 Butterfly Bomb, the Abwurfbehälter 250, & the AB 500:
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I think PTABs were dropped from cassettes holding many small bombs in place, so not technically cluster bombs but cluster ammunition.
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Let some BLG-66 “Belouga” gives hard dreams to tank newbies :D
look at that beauty
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av-8a/c with cluster bombs, also fachete rockets because funny
No I meant the Il-2 bombs. They aren’t the same as modern cluster bombs but the function was similar. Dropping many dozens of tiny bomblets at once. The German equivalents would also be cool.
This discussion reminds me of the CBU-107 PAW, a guided non exploding cluster bomb. Could be an interesting addition, a bomb that drops many tungsten and steel darts on a wide area. If you make it deploy from the right altitude, the effects of a direct hit should be comparable to lower power APFSDS ammo from a tank. Probably easier to balance than the CBU-105 that would just wipe entire teams singlehandedly.
not really,… as the game would be needing to adjust perfomances of all darts depending on altitude.
and also,… most tanks doesn’t get a heavily armored rooftops :
M1A2 SEPv2 : 25.4 to 38mm rooftop armor
Leopard 2A7V : 20 to 45mm rooftop armor
T-90M : 30 to 48mm rooftop armor
T-80 BVM : 30 to 65mm rooftop armor (thicker on mold red part of turret armor)
Challenger 2E : 20 to 38mm rooftop armor (except front part of undercarriage, exceeding 80mm)
TKX : 15 to 40mm rooftop armor
VT4A1 : 20 to 45mm rooftop armor
Ariete AMV : 10 to 40mm rooftop armor
Leclerc S2 AZUR : 25 to 60mm rooftop armor
Strv122B+ : 20 to 45mm rooftop armor
Only the Merkava 4M exceed a minimal of 100mm rooftop armor, due to the massive amount of NERA armor it does use.
so depending on altitude and deployements of penetrators, weight and size,… the rooftops of nearly all MBT are exposed to damages.
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Israel knew one day cluster bombs will be added in War Thunder they made rooftop armor stronger than some tanks hull armor
However we can delay implementation of cluster munition but one day people will ask for it more than now because people want more variations
and to be honest only top tier countries that use cluster munition will be USA Russia and Israel rest of the world don’t use cluster munition anymore
dont worry
they are going to give everyone except the US CBU 105 because “technical compatibility” while ignoring any reports to add it to US planes
If I’m not mistaken, AP bombs get variable penetration numbers based on the velocity they have at impact, so the system to model the CBU-107 exists in the game already. The only issue I think would be the part where the bomb has nearly 4000 darts per drop. Granted, the most damaging darts are the longer tungsten ones that the bomb only has ~700 of, but still.
thanks to known penetration tables (likely using “average” values in-between based on distance)
if you can found CBU-107 PAW penetration tables, then it could be possible,… but there is none afaik
We’ve got the pen calculator for darts, so the only issue is figuring out the terminal velocity of the darts deployed from the CBU-107 and what altitude is required for them to reach that velocity.