This looks great! I really hope the Chinese tree will be this filled out one day. Excellent work on it.
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And this one is the 85-III, which is the improved version of 85-IIM, developed in 1993 by
Norinco for bidding on new orders in Pakistan.
The total weight of the 85-III is 44 tons. With the 125 mm cannon and a 1000 horsepower diesel engine produced in Yugoslavia, a bilateral planetary gearbox, and an integral hoisting power cabin. The Fire-control system is also produced in Yugoslavia, and is the same model as the Fire-control system of the Yugoslav M84A.The reliability issue caused by poor endurance of the power system cannot adapt to the desert environment testing in Pakistan, especially when the fuel tank is too small, resulting in the fuel tank cracking. Moreover, it is only a test sample vehicle, which appeared to have many faults during the test, so it was not selected in the comparison test in Pakistan (Pakistan chose the T-80UD improved by Ukraine). The problem was later solved, but more advanced models have been launched, Therefore, the 85-III tank was not mass-produced.
Performance
- Engine: XXXX 1000hp
- Weight: 44t
- Max speed: 59km/h, -6km/h
- Spin turn: No
- Main gun: 125mm smoothbore gun
- Shells: All 125mm Chinese APFSDS, HEAT, HE, HE-VT
- Reload time: 7.1s
- Machine gun: 7.62mm machine gun + 12.7mm machine gun
- Gunner thermal: No
- Commander thermal: No
- Commander override: No
- Vertical guidance: -6°, 14°
- Target speed: 30°/s, 6°/s
- LWS: No
- APS: No
- ERA: FY-1(5 KE, 370 CE)
- Hull protection: ~450 RHA + FY-1
- Turret protection: ~390 RHA + FY-1
The 85-III is a stronger ZTZ96, but it still cannot compete with the ZTZ96A, as it can effectively fill the BR gap between the two.
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+1 Great. Separating the light tanks into another line and adding an export vehicle line is something I’ve always been thinking about.
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Me too, but they need to make another LT branch so that to place it, i think Gaijjn are working for it brecasue they add so many LTs in many tiers for CN in last few updates :)
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I saw earlier a modification based on the ZLT11 hull, a cannon similar to that on a PUMA infantry fighting vehicle was installed on a ZLT11 chassis. It’s such a cool and interesting vehicle, and if it’s added to the WT, no matter how I to get it, I’d love to own one
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The VN1 serise is what u waht.
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我觉得这样的科技树并不合适，你应该分六条或者七条而不是五条，你还得要考虑和我们关系很好的其它子线国家并入，这个五条科技树看起来太压缩了，谢谢。
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The developers said that wt support only 5 branches now.
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为何不向开发人员提出建议更改科技树布局？
Useless lol.
This is what I’m hoping for
China
Type 59 - 7.7 (APCBC)
Type 59-I - 8.0 (Type 59 APFSDS)
Type 59-II - 8.7 (Type 83 APFSDS)
Type 88A - 9.3 (Type 83 APFSDS)
Type 69 - 8.0 (PT71-100 APFSDS)
Type 69-I - 8.3 (Type 59 APFSDS)
Type 69-II - 9.0 (DTW2-100 APFSDS)
Type 85-II - 9.7 (DTW2-105 APFSDS)
ZTZ96 - 10.0 (125-I)
ZTZ96A (P) - 10.7 (125-I)
ZTZ96A - 11.0 (DTW-125)
VT-4 - 11.3 (DTW-125)
ZTZ96B - 11.7 (DTC10-125)
VT-4A1 - 12.0 (DTC10-125)
ZTZ99 - 10.3 (125-I)
ZTZ99-I - 11.0 (DTW-125)
ZTZ99-II - 11.3 (DTW-125)
ZTZ99A - 12.0 (DTC10-125)
WZ1001 - 12.3 (DTC10-125)
ZTZ99-140 - 13.0 (DTW-140)
Russia
T-54 - 7.7 (APCBC)
T-54A - 8.0 (3BM-20)
T-55A - 8.3 (3BM-25)
T-55AM - 8.7 (3BM-25)
T-72 Ural-1 - 9.0 (3BM15)
T-72A - 9.3 (3BM-22)
T-72B “84” - 9.7 (3BM-26 / 3BM-29)
T-72B “85” - 10.0 (3BM-32)
T-72B “89” - 10.7 (3BM-42)
T-90A - 11.3 (3BM-42-2)
T-72B3M - 11.7 (3BM-60)
T-90M - 12.3 (3BM-60)
Object 195 - 13.0 (experimental apfsds)
T-62 - 8.3 (3BM-6)
T-62M-1 - 8.7 (3BM-21)
T-64A - 9.0 (3BM-15)
T-64B - 9.3 (3BM-22)
T-64BV - 9.7 (3BM-26 / 3BM-29)
T-80BV - 10.0 (3BM-32)
T-80U - 10.7 (3BM-42)
T-80UM - 11.3 (3BM-42-2)
T-80BVM - 12.0 (3BM-60)
T-14 Prototype - 12.3 (3BM-60)
T-14 Production - 13.0 (3BM-69)
Germany
Leopard 1 - 8.0 (L28A1)
Leopard A1A1 - 8.3 (L28A1)
M48A2 G A2 - 8.7 (M111)
Leopard 1A3 - 9.0 (M111)
Leopard 1A5 - 9.7 (M413)
Leopard 2A0 - 10.0 (DM13)
Leopard 2A4 - 10.3 (DM23)
Leopard 2A5 - 11.0 (DM33)
Leopard 2PL - 11.3 (Pz.531)
Leopard 2A6 - 12.0 (DM53)
Leopard 2A7 - 12.3 (DM63A1)
Leopard 2A7V - 12.7 (DM73)
Leopard 2A8 - 13.0 (LKE Neo)
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I really hope gajjin keeps all options open for Chinese ground forces, as there starting too run out of top tier worthy MBT’s and we will essentially need vehicles like the M1A2T and The best possible version of the VT-4 too help china have a top tier worthy lineup. Also adding more high BR light tanks and IFV’s along with better SPAA would greatly increase Chinas capabilities and options on the ground
It’s missing a north Korean subtree. Looks good otherwise
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NK can provide some event or premium vehcile :)
We need more SPAA for China, not only toptier spaa, but also like PGZ88 or ty90 launcher on the ground.
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I have created a tech tree for the Chinese Air Force myself (with rank based on the US technology tree created by others). There may be a large number of errors among them.
Would you like to take a look :)
Yitian SPAA when?
8X TY-90s on a WZ-551 hull.
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How do we feel about a Pakistani Sub tree for China? It would open the door for some cool vehicles and could really boost china at top tier especially. Something I’m interested in would be the Pakistani version of the T-80UD which I remember correctly used an improved transmission form the Ukrainian T-84’s. While it’s engine would be less powerful, it’s mobility would in some ways be better thanks too a better transmission.
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Pakistan would be neat. North korean event/premiums would also be neat
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