Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

Now all we need is for the AAM-4 to be axed as well so the only missiles at top tier are either French or Russian

Yeah, aim-120 went from being more maneuverable than r-77 to straight up the worst turning fox 3

and it only affects one nation, where amraam is in every tree but 2

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Im with you that the amraam nerf is outrageous. But the pl12 nerf is worse. I get your point, but in oractice this is much more impactfull

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it objectively is not

the difference in before and after pull is less with the pl12 nerf

and it is only used by one tech tree vs every tech tree except 2

The pl12 cannot hit someone rolling or even pulling hard

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yes

and?

ill give you the same advice ive seen repeatedly given for the amraam nerf
deal with it

Aim 120 hits those bro

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AIM-120 could deffo hit those shots no matter what version

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Eh release aim-120c 5 could be out rolled from past 5km.

Now it can’t get though

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they havent

there have been no changes to 120A/B since it was nerfed just after release

and they are still doing fine lol whats your point then?

that this is directly comparable to when gaijin did functionally the same thing to amraam over a year ago

Yeah a lot of missiles have a baseline of 8m proxy in game when it should be smaller/bigger for a lot of em.

Like r-77 for example should have a smaller proxy of 7m and r27 should have a bigger proxy of 11m

i dont think they made them useless in headons did they now? they did nerf their hobs fair enough but atleast those missles have range to compensate, the PL-12 does not.

and they didnt make PL12 useless in headons either

most planes cant pull 15Gs while going mach 1.3 or so, like the ufo shown out pulling it

there is literally a video of a SU-30 (not even at low speed) doing it, i dont think you can get a bigger plane at toptier to do it in

of a su30 rolling it, not just out pulling it like the rafale video

there is a big difference