Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

What do u mean t/r channels?
Do u mean t/r units or dl channels?

Ig a better word would’ve been t/r modules,
For example, Zhuk ae has 163 quad pack t/r modules for total of 652 channels

Over 1400.

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Around same size as su-57 main radar, impressive

For reference, consider the KLJ-7A radar on the JF-17 Block III (600mm aperture, 1000+ T/R modules). The nose of the J-10C is larger than that of the J-10A (the KLJ-3 has a 750mm aperture, while the J-10C’s radar aperture should exceed 800mm—it’s actually oval-shaped but simplified as a circle here). When directly converted by area, it should be 1700+ modules, but all the data I’ve found suggests 1400+ (without a source).

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I haven’t found an answer to this myself, but do we know if the J-10C and CE has the same radar?
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J-10B_radar
From these images thay definitely look like the same shape and size

Second image is labeled as a J-10B but that looks like the C’s second antenna to me
J-10B_radar
And visually it doesn’t match the B’s radar

Denied for this patch :c

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How likely is it that the J-10C kicks in and becomes top 3 jets in air RB?

From what I understand the weight is increase isn’t that bad, and the engine upgrade is also nice;
Plus I feel like a faster platform with a good AESA could make the PL-12 perform quite nicely for the current meta.

This jet sounds very interesting to me, and I honestly plan to speedrun the tree to grind it.

Not too likely
Rafale will unfortunately still be Better with most probability
and it Is rumored that aesa typhoons and Su35 could be added very soon.

But if those 2 get delayed, then It could probably contend for 3rd/4th Place with either current typhoon or Su30SM

Rumors in the sense that they come from official sources or mainly here in the forum?

Fair enough, I never played the J10 unfortunately, but from videos of it I really like how that thing flies, it has very good nose authority.

think of it like a very slightly worse rafale. it flies like every other eurocanard.
With the j-10c, Im expecting worse gimbal limits, much better thrust to weight/flight performance at low-medium speeds, and worse high speed,
Good irst, amazing aesa radar, but limited cms (72 is enough but a bit limiting)

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Bit of both, mainly the latter though

You really should. It’s one of the strongest 13.7s and actually fun

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Missed the chance to get myself the J-7D with discounts heh, I’ll have to figure out something else.

Do u mean against the eurocanards or the J10A, since the J-10A is pretty badly nerfed in terms of FM I would be wanting a fix in J-10C, which would give it a huge leap in capabilities, although compared to a EF this may still be worse but should be up to date with Rafale or J11B at least.

it’s pretty much Mirage 2000 (Old FM) that have too much drag in a straight line.

Just in case anyone wondering what’s wrong with drag.

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It’s flatout better in everything besides weight, it’ll play similarly but with ‘the full package’ so to speak, great fun either way and I can’t wait to play with it

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even fine with the weight according to new calculation, rather than wiki data

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This is quite baffling from a pure aerodynamic perspective.
The J-10 exhibits a noticeably smoother transonic area ruling transition compared to the Rafale and Eurofighter, and it possesses the smallest cross-sectional area among the three—meaning it should logically have the lowest Cd0. The Rafale, due to its large internal volume and relatively stubby airframe, should theoretically have the highest Cd0, while the Eurofighter would fall between the two. Yet the data we’re seeing is completely the opposite.

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