Can you explain it to me like I’m stupid?
Specifically; a simplification since I know next to nothing about aircraft.
So as this topic is about J-10 I’ll limit my scope to J-10C.
The TL;DR version of these two threads I shared talks about the same thing: while most electronically scanned array radar’s “FastTWS” function was deactivated due to its unreliability, J-10C’s radar never got the same treatment. The KLJ-10A radar is the AESA current J-10Cs use, Thales RBE2 is that of the Rafale (firstly PESA but then AESA) and you can see the difference.
The second data mine is just the explanation of the first in layman’s terms.
As for what FastTWS is in this function, I don’t know either… all I can guess is that this algorithm can optimize TWS efficiency at higher refresh rates somehow but decreases its reliability?
But seriously the US/CN radars have been plagued by unreliability at higher BRs.
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this video is giving me a stroke
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TWS is Track While Scan - from what google is telling me.
So Fast TWS is probably a variant of it?
Like I said, I know nothing of aircraft aside from tourist level stuff. I can tell my fulcrums from my flankers and my hornets from my falcons but I don’t know anything about the technical aspects.
Clearly, there’s some sort of change going on though. Sounds like for the better.
My educated guess tells me that it was intended to optimize scan and track efficiency and imitate multi-beam of ESA radars, so yeah, it should make the ESAs function better.
Question is that it’s buggy and tracking was unreliable under this new model.
Finally spaded J-10C and the final verdict from me is… unpleasant.
Still same strength and weaknesses of J-10A, but with better CAS. It still a bit worse than J-10A by virtue of sitting on 14.3 AirRB and facing superior BVR platforms without ability to respond in kind and with slightly worse dogfight than 10A (PL-8B is a good missile, but too much energy for <2km and/or high off bore shots)
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I mean even the A variant is a bit stalled at this point since BVR is back on the agenda with the number of AMRAAM spams (and hits) I am seeing RN, it really sucks to be a huge KE blackhole and have a weak acceleration while the low CM count doesn’t help. From dev server impressions the J-10C is no better except ability to get two extra missiles, which makes u a worse plane overall.
Welp, Gaijin has begun removing my posts in the chinese forum.
thats if it gets resolved
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@Smin1080p_WT sorry to ping you but this bug report was closed to “not a bug” for a very strange reason: Community Bug Reporting System
The Bug report manager claims that “The J-10C doesn’t have any sensors that can detect missiles.” while it quite literally has a 360° MAW.
I´d be thankfull for a response. Many thanks in advance
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Hey. This was the response from the developers. The DIRCM system is seperate from the MAW.
i am sorry but i do not understand that logic, the IRCM tgp is advertised as a standalone system with no other modifications to the mounted aircraft. So how would it work if not with the sensors already onboard of the mounted aircraft? (also on the advertisment it says “missile warning”, so even without external sensors, i think it would be reasonable to assume that the tgp can detect missiles within its own FOV)
Sorry to bother you more
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The YINGS is advertised to also work like an air radar with its EO function (that as a main function too). I don’t think it relies on some outside sensors, as those are not mentioned and the YINGS is specifically showcased for this. They also mention that it has situational awareness which just helps further with it’s overall detection. Imo I really doubt that AVIC would include those specific infos without mentioning that it needs to use sensors or something
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It seems to me that the table with DIRCM does not apply to TGP - the picture shows a J-35 without a container, and the full video does not have this information
Because your video is a new one from 2024 it appears. The one I have shown is an old one when it was still called YINGS-III (without the A), therefore it would obviously have changes and certain things might not have been shown
What I have shown was the original one back in 2016. There were photos taken there, but to my knowledge no videos
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It is currently unclear if MAWS can work directly with the targeting pod, or the targeting pod needs it’s own sensors. At the same time, considering if the targeting pod indeed has the IRCM/DIRCM capabilities, it’s limited pivot would mean it would work only from spesific angles.
We welcome any additional information that provides more clarity on the matter. Right now there is very little evidence the pod itself has the required elements for DIRCM functionality. But we will continue to investigate.
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i think you need some sikrit document disclaimers : )
Its already pinned at the top of the forum :)
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You don’t understand, the J-10C clearly doesn’t have an RWR or MAW
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