kizvy:
positive sweep
Positive sweep is conventional sweep wings.
Negative sweep is the case of the SU47
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————ls6系列炸弹模型issue链接 ————
游戏里面的ls6 250建模有问题,ls6的模型偏大。ls6套件是由普通航弹改装而来,那么他不会改变原版航空炸弹的大小。
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In the game, the LS-6 250kg bomb cannot achieve a 3x3 configuration on the J-10C’s triple ejector racks and is currently limited to 2x2 due to its oversized model (it is larger than the standard 250-3 bomb). This is also an issue that needs to be fixed.
the issue link:Model Errors of the LS-6 Series Bombs
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This proves that Gaijin harbors deep hatred for China, especially since the Rafale and Su-30MKI being shot down by J-10Cs only fueled his hatred for the J-10Cs.
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 11:27am
2102
that is just wrong
maybe you should look at the actual drag values instead of the drag coefficent
the J-10 actually has less drag than the rafale until mach 1
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 11:28am
2103
it dosent prove anything because he is spreading blatant disinformation to push his absurd point
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yiehgd
December 20, 2025, 12:12pm
2104
You should check it with its composite pylons, massive drag
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:15pm
2105
and the SU-30 will still have more drag than the J-10C
becasue the missiles will add the same ammount of drag and the Su-30 can carry more missiles so it will have more added drag
yiehgd:
massive drag
yeah for the Su-30
NCC105
December 20, 2025, 12:30pm
2106
the problem is after mach 1, caused by the huge increase of cd0 parameter, which is almost doubled than rafale and ef2000
and clearly, the supersonic drag is more important in game
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:34pm
2107
again you guys dont know what you are talking about and you shouldnt talk about it without a basic understanding of aerodynamics
Yes, but the drag problem occurs on the airframe; the J10A and C have far too much drag, the drag of the weaponry is another subject
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:36pm
2109
the J-10 dosent have too much drag
it has way less drag than the Su-30
it has less drag than the Eurofighter and it also has less drag than the rafale
yiehgd
December 20, 2025, 12:39pm
2110
its not about missile and anything, its the pylon drag
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ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:41pm
2111
pylon drag isnt modeled in game
becasue if it was the f-18 would be way slower
We’re talking about drag, you’re showing an engine performance curve
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NCC105
December 20, 2025, 12:42pm
2113
Let me refine my previous point. Initially, I assumed the Cd0 was based on a separate reference area, but I now realize it actually uses wing area as the reference. Considering the J-10C and the Eurofighter have similar fuselage lengths, the J-10C—due to its single-engine design—has a smaller cross-sectional area and features a more pronounced “waisted” fuselage design. Therefore, its fuselage drag in the transonic regime should generally be lower than that of the Eurofighter. Given the difference in reference area (37 m² for the J-10C vs. 51.4 m² for the Eurofighter, excluding ailerons), the peak Cd₀ for the J-10C should be below 0.0194, whereas the current value is 0.0204.
Furthermore, a more suitable reference for wing comparison is actually the JAS 39 Gripen, as they share similar wing sweep angles and canard positions relative to the wing. Considering the J-10 has no wingtip pylons and incorporates wingtip design similar to the F-15’s clipped tips, the wing Cd₀ of the J-10C should not exceed the JAS 39’s peak of 0.0112, yet the current value is 0.0123.
let me just borrow this for a quick answer. and I’m sure there is enough talking in this thread, explaining J-10’s design is more focus on supersonic not subsonic
most pylon drag isn’t modeled in game. only in some helis, so it’s the plane’s drag
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yiehgd
December 20, 2025, 12:42pm
2114
guess what? try it with and without, significant difference
ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:42pm
2115
reading?
it clearly says drag and its until kgf
thats the unit drag is measured in
ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:42pm
2116
guess what
that appies to every aircraft ingame
yiehgd
December 20, 2025, 12:44pm
2117
try it then, shooot every missile with empty pylon, just cant get above M1.3
ron_23
December 20, 2025, 12:44pm
2118
you cant just compare the Cd0 of two completly different planes
i dont know if you noticed but this:
is different from this:
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