Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

My educated guess tells me that it was intended to optimize scan and track efficiency and imitate multi-beam of ESA radars, so yeah, it should make the ESAs function better.
Question is that it’s buggy and tracking was unreliable under this new model.

Finally spaded J-10C and the final verdict from me is… unpleasant.

Still same strength and weaknesses of J-10A, but with better CAS. It still a bit worse than J-10A by virtue of sitting on 14.3 AirRB and facing superior BVR platforms without ability to respond in kind and with slightly worse dogfight than 10A (PL-8B is a good missile, but too much energy for <2km and/or high off bore shots)

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I mean even the A variant is a bit stalled at this point since BVR is back on the agenda with the number of AMRAAM spams (and hits) I am seeing RN, it really sucks to be a huge KE blackhole and have a weak acceleration while the low CM count doesn’t help. From dev server impressions the J-10C is no better except ability to get two extra missiles, which makes u a worse plane overall.

Welp, Gaijin has begun removing my posts in the chinese forum.

It’s good that the issue seems to be resolved before I finish developing the J-10C.
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thats if it gets resolved

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@Smin1080p_WT sorry to ping you but this bug report was closed to “not a bug” for a very strange reason: Community Bug Reporting System

The Bug report manager claims that “The J-10C doesn’t have any sensors that can detect missiles.” while it quite literally has a 360° MAW.

I´d be thankfull for a response. Many thanks in advance

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Hey. This was the response from the developers. The DIRCM system is seperate from the MAW.

i am sorry but i do not understand that logic, the IRCM tgp is advertised as a standalone system with no other modifications to the mounted aircraft. So how would it work if not with the sensors already onboard of the mounted aircraft? (also on the advertisment it says “missile warning”, so even without external sensors, i think it would be reasonable to assume that the tgp can detect missiles within its own FOV)

Sorry to bother you more

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The YINGS is advertised to also work like an air radar with its EO function (that as a main function too). I don’t think it relies on some outside sensors, as those are not mentioned and the YINGS is specifically showcased for this. They also mention that it has situational awareness which just helps further with it’s overall detection. Imo I really doubt that AVIC would include those specific infos without mentioning that it needs to use sensors or something

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It seems to me that the table with DIRCM does not apply to TGP - the picture shows a J-35 without a container, and the full video does not have this information

Because your video is a new one from 2024 it appears. The one I have shown is an old one when it was still called YINGS-III (without the A), therefore it would obviously have changes and certain things might not have been shown

What I have shown was the original one back in 2016. There were photos taken there, but to my knowledge no videos

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It is currently unclear if MAWS can work directly with the targeting pod, or the targeting pod needs it’s own sensors. At the same time, considering if the targeting pod indeed has the IRCM/DIRCM capabilities, it’s limited pivot would mean it would work only from spesific angles.

We welcome any additional information that provides more clarity on the matter. Right now there is very little evidence the pod itself has the required elements for DIRCM functionality. But we will continue to investigate.

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i think you need some sikrit document disclaimers : )

Its already pinned at the top of the forum :)

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You don’t understand, the J-10C clearly doesn’t have an RWR or MAW

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Do Gaijin have any plans to fix the modeling errors of the LS6 series bombs? The issue I submitted in the bug report Model Errors of the LS-6 Series Bombs has been locked, and the Reporting Manager provided no reason for the lock… This modeling problem is an objective fact.

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all LDIRCM has limited field of view, especially the mi28/ka52(one of them) which only has it on the bottom, but somehow it works against top down missiles

So the j10c, like the j11a, exists only to feed other people, the so-called model modification, the working time is just an excuse, and it doesn’t even take a day to fix the radar and correct the thrust.

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