Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

Main differences between 10B and 10C are PESA+AL-31 vs AESA+WS-10 from all the Chinese sources I’ve seen, and the problem with using Chinese academic papers as sources is that 99% of the times they are very vague for OPSEC and won’t specify which vehicle they discuss. The paper does not even have a singular mention about “J-10”.

A few comments down when another user asked the OP to translate the paper he said “My grasp of the Chinese language is as good as yours”, apparently he does not even understand Chinese. Judging from the watermark he got them from Super Basecamp (超级大本营, a long gone CN military watch forum) and we can’t trace where the claim came from.

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Because China likes to hide its own military scientific achievements and then release them when they are needed. Just like our sixth-generation aircraft. It even has two scenarios.

how the j10A one circle performance compared to eurofighter

J-10A is slightly inferior ingame, unless it is very low speed, then J-10A has better stall control.
J-10B is lighter + more thrust, so it should be more competitive.

J-10A actually has a lower stall speed than the Eurofighter, suggesting more lift at high AOA but the Eurofighter just has so much thrust that it outturns J-10A anyway.

Here’s time stamped duel.

I thought the j-10b got the ws-10

the J10B has a AL-31FN series 3

J-10C is the one using WS-10B, early batch of J-10C was still using AL-31FN Series 3 or AL-31FNM1

Regarding this, I am seeing if I can see the actual paper for myself, cause it might mention something there. I agree with scientific papers it is vague, but roughly just about everything else is classified. If we can see from somewhere, (anywhere) in the paper that something matches on to known stuff, then we might just be able to use it.

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PLAAF is really bad at PR, ngl
As CW Lemoine said none of the displays match up with what actually happens, might be because for OPSEC or for casual audience viewing

Granted this is an old video

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comparisonj-101
J-10B hopefully next major update?

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Also some details on the J-10C

Top left you can see the difference in cockpit, J-10B has 3 MFDs while J-10C has a single large display with a smaller one below it

J-16 and J-20 use a similar layout

Top right it states WS-10B is rated for 14 tons of thrust

Watch them adding J-15 and Liaoning to justify it existance

I want J-15, but the inital variant isn’t very good
J-15T is a monster though, it’s probably even better than the J-16 in A2A

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J-10B cockpit (roughly)

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J-10B radar maybe

J-10B’s radar

Also, this is supposedly what the radar on the J-10C looks like
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It’s definitely a different radar, it doesn’t have the IFF interrogators like on the radar of the J-10B.

@NCC105 @crunchyBoy @141_allen

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TY. Where do u guys get these pics, just interested.

Seems you can just google “J-10B Radar Cone” and see loads of them;

Spoiler

Oh, great. My bad, never though u could just do that.

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