Chaos in the Skies: The Devastating Impact of the Su-25SM3 in War Thunder

GR-7 is faster than SU-25, has more CM, turns really good, dogfight capable, 9M shits on R-73, also has MAW like SU-25, has insane acceleration.

MUH SU-25 OP

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Oh come on, taking out a XM975 purely to counter Kh38s is unrealistic. That thing is barely competitive at 10.3.

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“i shall ignore the statement and call this man a strawman”

why are you not objecting? so you agree then?

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Well it is USA fault for this situation in the game. literally basing their doctrine on having air superiority and not giving a shit about air defence. So do what USA would do: fly fighters, kill CAS.

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then isn’t it Russia’s fault for having shitty CAS?

Yeah but the game takes plenty of leeway with realism to make things fairer and more fun. The ADATS not being able to intercept these missiles as consistently as its peers is not only unfair but less fun. Taking this into account: Please tell me exactly why should the ADATS not be able to lock Kh38s?

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considering the su24 exists and hasnt been added yet, no

(where muh kab 1500)

Yea, because it is one. It is also technically changing the goalpost, since it ignores the premise of both my original statement and the guy’s I was answering to.

Quite pathetic honestly, “but muh X thing!”. Besides, it wasn’t even a year (lad didn’t bother to check, huh), Russia got Pantsir which killed off slow/heavy fixed wing CAS just 6 months later, lol.

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cough Longbow

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if you mean 114L then its not added because it sees through smoke or whatever

and i dont want to hear SHIT about khrizantema

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harrier → Update “Drone Age” was introduced on 14 September 2022

f16c → Update “Sons of Attila” was introduced on 19 September 2023

??? someone doesnt know how to count

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When Mig came, we still forget A7, Jaguar, etc , what had a lot better optics also. (thermals)
And A10 etc with F&F Air to Ground missiles. What was something what soviets didnt have. Nope, it’s not double standards, yes, those laser missiles are good.
And that deal with it, is most likely on when people have been complaining about western CAS , usually answers have been, play AA, take cover , counter it on jet , and deal with it. Now soviets have something to give back on, so maybe those same arguments work on it also? Or if not, what is more about doublestandards if that is not?

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Exactly, if we’re going off X nation being superior at something then the US should have longbows because they have better CAS. In the same way that the US has bad SPAA because:

It’s part of the doctrine

(But that’s obviously not good for balance hence why we balance based off performance)

Because it has IRST tracking, as simple as that.

Someone hasn’t learned to read full sentences yet, it seems.

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how is the adats bad lmao

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if you are still dying to pantsir im sorry buddy but thats skill issue

Shortest range among all other 11.7 SPAA, PITA radar, its a freaking tank destroyer so it costs 4x as much to spawn in.

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Thank you for not reading anything I have written and not even bothering with a proper reply. I am sorry to have wasted my time with you. Goodbye.

I literally responded to your exact question.