The british tested the MK108 later against Halifax and Lancaster. The only reliably non-lethal hits were to the fuselage.
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Id consider him more lucky than anything given how damaged his plane was.
iirc the british said lethal aerodynamically, aka skin torn up to shreds disrupting lift, not the wing coming off, right?
So if anything the lift penalty for a wing getting shredded could be bumped up a bit
10-15% less module health. I never said rounds.
I wasn’t here for all that. I don’t read every single comment.
Also, I harbor no biases. I actually put my money where my mouth is, and try my best to get the most fair result.
E.g. I play all sorts of vehicles
And this goes for everything.
Every document I’ve checked on the construction of these rounds says that MK 108 mineshells use the VC 70 “Verzögerungssprengkapsel” (Delay blasting cap).
This is a booster charge that creates a delay on the main detonation after the fuse is triggered. It does so by having a teensy tiny charge right where the image says “zündhütchen” (percussion cap), which causes the “Verzögerungskörper” (Delay element) to combust, due to being an Aluminium-Copper-Magnesium alloy. Once it has combusted fully it reaches the main booster charge which causes it to ignite, which then ignites the main charge of the high explosive mine shell.
The delay distance caused by the VC 70 is stated to be 0.75 +/- 0.25 m.
Verzögerungssprengkapsel VC 70
However, since the British in their tests talk about the 30mm HE having “surface detonation”, it makes me think that maybe not all MK 108 HE rounds used this, even though they were meant to.
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Yeah no matter what side of the argument you’re on, you gotta admit the mk108 and its ammunition was a nasty, nasty piece of kit
Depends on what belt you got.
In real life you get what you were issued. No choice.
Yeah. The pictures are pretty gnarly.
unfortunately the report seems to be lost media at the moment and the only site that has a good amount of excerpts from it is a russian blog
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There’s not much selection with MK 108 rounds.
You either get:
- the plane melter 9000 (incendiary round) or
- the plane skin remover 9000 (high explosive round)
There’s nothing else.
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Also Ki-109 is now a DEMON due to this buff, you are basically unkillable (even more than in Air RB since airfields are closer) and SPAAs just can’t do anything to you
I’m not even that good of a shot with the 75mm, this is just that easy. Nerf NOW
It was an interesting read, thx, it says that fuselage attacks are pretty much harmless, while wing attacks can damage aerodynamic capabilities from 3-5 shells. Then it says that these shells are not effective to make fuel tank fires.
Let’s compare to WarThunder, except 0 meters point blank, perfectly perpendicular from above and hitting the fuel tank directly without passing through any other components annnd…
Not even skin damage.
I know this protection analysis is a Lancaster and not the Halifax of the tests but come on.
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The HE ones no. However the incendiary ones were extremely effective even when they had to penetrate through a flap and wing structure.
And, the HE shells were only noted to be ineffective since they directed most of their fragmentation sideways and could not effectively pierce the wing spar, which is reasonable.
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So a plane being decent against German players (quite literally known as the worst players in grb)
Is now grounds to nerf it?
When it was absolutely terrible before?
Peak logic.
I was playing against americans in a previous match… they didn’t even manage to get me out of the Ho-Ni II until I was 15 kills in.
A previous match against mostly russia ended before I really got a good score. Still, 5 ground kills with the boat is okay.
But there was literally nothing they could do about me other than getting very lucky and hitting my pilot. I can just fly right over the battlefield, shoot SPAA, shoot tanks, shoot planes, return to base while on fire, doesn’t matter. As long as the match lasts long enough I can get way too many kills for way too little effort.
we don’t have skin/structure dichotomy in the game rn, the whole segment is both a skin and a structure
They said that this change is only a first step and there will be more, I expect them to actually separate skin and structure
Well it’s a good thing that the incendiary rounds were specifically stated to do heavy structure damage in those tests. Spewing thermite inside the plane and all that.
I’d like to see what devs will do next, idk
So the Xa-38 is usable now too? Good!
Great update!!
Good job gaijin!
XA-38 did not get the buff ))))