Having to be forced to use a different control setup is fundamentally flawed.
All controls should operate to roughly the same level.
But who am I kidding, we are talking about a pc game ported to make money.
(Remember only pc still has access to the gaijin market, mods (like reticles to help improve aim) and so on. Non of which is balanced for console users.)
Thinking that controller is ever going to be as precise as M&K is delusional.
You’re not forced to anything. But if you are not happy with the outcome of your choice of platform to play on, you can improve it.
Imagine that every PC gamer had to pay for a Mouse and Keyboard, and none is complaining about it lol
In the current state, I think removing AI gunners would be a fair balance change. Bomber players should be forced to aim for themselves.
That thinking is very one sided.
I own both an PC, and XBX.
I chose to play on my Xbox.
Exactly. Hence why I bring up the fact they should balance it better.
It’s like saying if Xbox had aim assist and pc didn’t, that wouldn’t be a problem.
When in fact it’s flawed logic.
(Pc already has all the advantages)
Gunners are practically useless outside of Arcade.
And in fact, autonomous crews should be improved not diminished.
Naval is already bad enough with the controlling player having to do everything.
Imagine playing tanks and having to use the clutch and shifting, or holding a button to reload instead of automatic loading?
Why should they be improved?
Or as a console player, you can buy a supported M&K.
Ironic, SPAA has tracking help on consoles. (Atleast to my latest knowledge)
The M&K advantage can be fixed by getting your own. We have those as an advantage because we had to buy them.
So a native to native control scheme and PC gets the advantage in ground and air battles.
You don’t see the problem? Or are you willfully denying the problem?
Yes, aim holding. It doesn’t really do much. If it was an actual aim assist (liking single player games) then I would agree.
But given the gun sight, and sound mods PC gets, the ball is in the PC court. The mass advantage these two provide is insane.
The M&K precision aim in air makes bombers vastly easier to play.
Sounds to me you don’t care for balance, rather just a benefit to you.
It’s perfectly possible to fly the plane in gunner view while shooting. I’ve done it many times while dogfighting with the P1Y1.
I’m on PC. I don’t know if it’s possible on consoles, though.
This is exactly the misunderstanding im talking about. Im starting to get fairly certain you are targeting, and twisting what i say on purpose because you have no proper counter argumentation and disagree with me when i try to bring out valid points.
I don’t want to remove bombers from normal PVP matches, please quote where i have said that.
On console you can twirl, (tilt wings left and right) but going up and down / turning afaik requires you to leave gunner view. (At least this is how it is for me, despite me having a control to make me pull up as hard as possible, it’s locked out in gunner view)
Granted, you may be able to possibly keybind it? But with limited controls on a controller already… and I play on an Elite Series controller, I still have overlapping keybinds.
But I’m mostly gotten used to it.
What misunderstanding?
You want to make playing bomber economically unplayable because of “no one could kill you if you are playing bomber”, a narrative even you don’t believe:
Yeah, I figured that would be a problem due to how few buttons a controller has. On PC, I had to assign the plane’s yaw to left and right click, and use Spacebar to fire instead. There no other way
Yes, what you quoted is from a longer paragraph.
Please quote the whole paragraph and stop twisting the narrative to your own liking
I have mine key bound to LT+LSC
Which is not true even by your own words
None of those point to me wanting to remove bombers from current PVP battles.
You should put your money where your mouth is and buy a generic cheap controller, and record your experience if your so adamant in your belief people should “just get a key board” since some likely cannot.
Just like in sim people cannot afford VR or Hotas, or even use them. (And these are huge advantages in sim air)
You stated what you really want long ago.
Why would i? I’m not claiming that i am at a disadvantage that i couldn’t easily fix by buying a different controller method.
On a side note, why would i buy a cheap controller? Even the cheapest keyboard and mouse for consoles have good accuracy compared to a controller.
That was just a non-argument.