This is exactly the misunderstanding im talking about. Im starting to get fairly certain you are targeting, and twisting what i say on purpose because you have no proper counter argumentation and disagree with me when i try to bring out valid points.
I don’t want to remove bombers from normal PVP matches, please quote where i have said that.
On console you can twirl, (tilt wings left and right) but going up and down / turning afaik requires you to leave gunner view. (At least this is how it is for me, despite me having a control to make me pull up as hard as possible, it’s locked out in gunner view)
Granted, you may be able to possibly keybind it? But with limited controls on a controller already… and I play on an Elite Series controller, I still have overlapping keybinds.
But I’m mostly gotten used to it.
What misunderstanding?
You want to make playing bomber economically unplayable because of “no one could kill you if you are playing bomber”, a narrative even you don’t believe:
Yeah, I figured that would be a problem due to how few buttons a controller has. On PC, I had to assign the plane’s yaw to left and right click, and use Spacebar to fire instead. There no other way
Yes, what you quoted is from a longer paragraph.
Please quote the whole paragraph and stop twisting the narrative to your own liking
I have mine key bound to LT+LSC
Which is not true even by your own words
None of those point to me wanting to remove bombers from current PVP battles.
You should put your money where your mouth is and buy a generic cheap controller, and record your experience if your so adamant in your belief people should “just get a key board” since some likely cannot.
Just like in sim people cannot afford VR or Hotas, or even use them. (And these are huge advantages in sim air)
You stated what you really want long ago.
Why would i? I’m not claiming that i am at a disadvantage that i couldn’t easily fix by buying a different controller method.
On a side note, why would i buy a cheap controller? Even the cheapest keyboard and mouse for consoles have good accuracy compared to a controller.
That was just a non-argument.
That’s what you took out of it, which goes in line with your narrative about me.
“Finally someone with an actual idea instead of trying to squeeze them into air RB matches in a broken state.”
Read the underlined part, if your attention span allows for it, that’s the most important part of the whole paragraph.
Edit: Just to explain it to you, as best i can so you understand. The current state of bomber durability is the broken thing IN MY OPINION. Not bombers in current RB matchtype as a whole.
Reading comprehension is important, and you lack any. Either without knowing it, or knowingly. I’d bet on the latter.
Me suggesting something that would benefit bomber pilots and overall gameplay loop of bombers, along with current modes, can’t possibly be a negative, can it?
Irony, assumes “non argument”
Because of pc elitism or pure bias.
The problem, which you are willfully ignoring is someone shouldn’t have to buy a new control setup to preform as well as someone on another control scheme.
You must be in the ball park of liking the millionaires who control 37% of wealth, while being in the top 1%, which is also fundamentally flawed.
Buy a cheap controller to see how others have to play.
If you’re not at a disadvantage, you’re at an advantage.
Which again, harbors more reason things like: sound mods, sight mods, should be banned. And that controls schemes should only be preference not advantage based
Nice ad-hominem. Neither are true, second argument based on what google says i have to earn annually to be in the top 1% of the world.
Not using any mods myself. But i think they should be accessible to everyone.
As for everything else; my personal views on the ability and inability of different people to do things, are not relevant to the topic and they can be taken out of context too easily. So i refrain from giving easily misunderstood answers.
I can at least agree with this.
Wasn’t an ad-hominem.
Just showing the flawed logic, just like how you think the statical analytics… which you assume is google… also is flawed.
You made assumptions about me and my views, and used them in a negative manner to directly put me into a negative light. Call it whatever you want.
But this is getting way out of topic. My views on the world and the people in it, have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
Here is your suggestion to the bomber player, who keeps playing in ARB, instead of the hours-long climbing simulator game mode.
You put way more points in the line regarding what you really want than you realised.
An analogy is an analogy. Read into it as heavily as you wish.
And actually I’ve been referring to the topic this whole time.
You only see your side, not the other side. That’s the problem, hence why you don’t understand what I’m getting at.
As I said earlier:
Not saying it should be fully autonomous, but gunners in the tail sides should be able to swap sides if one is still alive.
Gunner should be more useful while balancing the damage models a little better.
Being able to accurately hit targets with gunners is apart of survivability, which is more difficult in controllers.
What? That’s not what i suggested. Please stop assuming something just because you see it that way.
Again, please stop assuming. And try to actually contribute to the topic. Me and many others have had some suggestions on the damage models. I gave an option for a second gamemode along the current one. Because some people seem to be unhappy how bombers have no place in the current gamespace. You just pick it out of context over and over again
These are all quote from you. What assuming are you talking about?