Changes to Bomber Survivability

That’s precisely the issue: fighter damage model need to be revised, too

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we will have to wait for a answer from gaijin on this topic ngl

they shouldnt change it though :3

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Yeah, that round have almost 500gr of explosive, not like a person could survive that in the head xd

Gonna post this again because i got “flagged”, hope it was for the link and no because someone felt threatened

new SAPHEI-T round that do nothing against bombers





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most rounds do nothing to them at the moment it’s not a SAPHEI-T issue, .50 cals are the most efficient rounds to deal with bombers cuz you still can pilot snipe them

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SAPHEI combine the percing capability with an HE filler, it doesn’t works as AP and the HE do no damage, it’s like the 7.7mm ball at this point

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Pretty much, the overtuned dms just sponge about anything you can think of. But some people swear this is reasonable.

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You clearly don’t play bombers, since you don’t know the bomber multi-turret aiming system is broken and still claim it takes zero skill to play.

You said the bomber was “dreaded to approach” even before the buff, and your starting point is that you don’t want to be destroyed, forced to land, unable to stay at maximum combat effectiveness, or even give away any altitude advantage to other enemy fighters when intercepting bombers.

All these demands on the intercepting pre-buff bomber, and the bomber players are the ones with high-level entitlement?

And why should people expect you to want to reduce bomber players’ in-game position to worse than that before bomber DM was buffed?

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Quote the single demand i had in that post you quoted, please. Lacking reading comprehension, or ignoring what i said on purpose twists what i meant. I said i dreaded going for them, not that i demanded any changes.

I simply meant that going for them was already a risk, because of easy aim gunners taking little skill to damage, and hamper my fighters combat ability.

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I don’t really get how gunners are no skill, but mouse-aim planes are yes skill. In SB I agree, bomber gunners are no skill, compared to what normal planes have to do there. But in RB… Aren’t they like… the same?

Bombers in general are low to no skill, fly towards a bombing target, hit bomb release a few times on time, return and land.
Now it takes no skill to kill fighters either, but fighters are expected to use skill and tactics to shoot down a bomber, all while being peppered with counterfire that can take off your wing in a single hit

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So… when fighters were able to pepper bombers with 7.62 fire and take off its wing it was ok, but now it isn’t because you don’t see bomber gameplay as a gameplay?

Someone on russian forum said that his tail on b-29 fell off with 5 hits of 37mm, contrary to 20 hits that were before, at the first day of new update.

And my er-2 collapsed too much this evening… I wonder if we will see a post about this at monday, saying they tuned the DM. I am kinda sad, it was fun to try to intercept them with I-225… Hope they did not overdone it and bombers won’t die in two spraying runs…

You really think people would think you just genuinely

after you saying all these:

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All that quoting, and only thing that had an actual demand, was the one where i wanted them to be tuned a bit. Which is a reasonable want in my opinion. You just see what i wrote, and think automatically i want them to be back to the way they were, or close to it.

I try to have some common sense into the balancing, instead of seeing just 2 possibilities; current state and pre-patch buff.
I know your brain might be able to comprehend only 2 options, but i think there’s more.

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How many approaches should a fighter do to 100% destroy a bomber, in your opinion?

Approach is like, 1-2 seconds of spraying from 6, followed by evasion of bullets.

I hardly play them outside of GRB, true.
So as someone with little to no knowledge in them, i shouldn’t be able to do this, with no knowledge in bombers, correct? Just played this match in a stock B-26B

Kills were 109Z that hit me quite a lot, FW190 A-4 that also got some hits into me, and an Me264

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Just flew out the B-26B. I had a 109Z maneuver with me, hit me probably 30+ times with 30mm shells. I was able to fly and maneuver without issues and take him out while maneuvering, using my gunners. Don’t know how many times a goshdarn B-26B should be hit by those guns in your opinion to cause even damage that makes it hard to maneuver

Half of your statement was made for pre pre DM buff bomber.

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