Changes to Bomber Survivability

I blame anyone who willingly takes advantage of something that honestly is beyond ridiculous, genuinely go deal with what i had to earlier and then tell me with a straight face it isnt ridiculous

Actually yknow what, play that br ground for 1 day with any nation except russia, and tally how many tis mas and su-8s you see

Oh I deal with nonsense all the time.

We lost a game at 4.7 the other day on Berlin.

Because a T-14, KV-1B, and a T-34-57 were all bushed to hell and rushed the spawn so hard. Sadly I didn’t have a potent enough gun in my excelsior and we got trampled.

Then the CAS came. The bush squad of 3 had over 20 kills, and there wasn’t much we could do.

So do not try to enlighten me. I have been around enough, and seen all the problems, and TOLD people like you all the problems. I HAVE TRIED to give ideas to improve the game, but either the contrarians or naysayers disagreed and honestly at this point I wouldn’t care if it all burned down.

But in terms of the bomber change it was positive despite it being minorly negative by a set few people.

I have yet to see any one complain about it in game.

Have you really dealt with it though, doesn’t sound like you have

Nowhere near as much as the TIS MA or Su-8.

They are incredibly weak and I’d rather fly a Yak-9 than an Me 262.

It’s because they are the most overpowered at the moment. If it was Russian bias, you’d see more talk about the Tu-2s or Pe-2s. However there could be a bias component that the TIS MA was buffed when the Bf 110s, Me 410s, or Brigand B.1 were left alone.

As if Gaijin has a good track record of listening to the community and making things better. We also need to give feedback (such as X plane being too good) in order for gaijin to actually listen.

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This honestly, all the other aircraft mentioned you can actually shoot down with good enough aim, thats not the case with these 2 aircraft in particular

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So people are infact not just complaining because they’re Russian, and are complaining because some vehicles (which just happen to be Russian) are overpowered, and are being played alot because a Youtuber showed how overpowered they are.

Tbh, that’s kinda silly. Players shouldn’t be intentionally handicapping themselves. If something, within the rules of the game, is too strong, then that’s Gajin’s fault, not the players’ fault.

I’ve played every game mode, all nations (not fully), and so on.

I have plenty of experience with the game, and I have killed a Tis ma I’ve legitimately only seen one.

M19A1 made short work of it.

And how long ago was this

Hogwash.

But in terms of the bomber change it was positive despite it being minorly negative by a set few people.

I have yet to see any one complain about it in game.

You either have your chat turned off - or you have issues with legibility. Reading glasses are affordable now. Any match with bombers in now is awash with people emptying their magazines into bombers that by all rights should have been shot to bits under any reasonable scenario. Are you ALT-TABBED out for most of the game?

Basically - YOU like pootling around in a bomber that is functionally immune to 90% of incoming fire. Maybe you need to give your head a wobble and learn that the game is not solely for your entertainment - it is for the playerbase as a whole.

Otherwise, with your vision it would just be you sat on your own wondering why you never get a match. That might work for you, but it is positively detrimental to the game and health of it going ahead.

In fact I think you are the ONLY person on the forums who seems totally fine with this current iteration. What does that tell you…?

Awaits stunning answer showing full self-awareness.

Not according to the BI’s 20mm shvaks.

Remember that whole discussion and I brought up the whole FI-T belt took 2-5 hits to kill a prop.

But vastly more to kill jets, especially the 262. I recall posting a video of it.

So saying the me262 is weak is both misleading and incorrect.

The only thing I’ve noticed it wasn’t “strong” against, was the P-59A’s 37mm.
It’s HE shells have made short work of many planes.

Ohh and the DO355 is pretty durable as well.

2 days ago my dear lord.

Lemme bow down and kiss your feet while I’m at it.

Not one of these aircraft comes remotely close to the current iterations of the aircraft in question, again, if youd faced them more often post buff which i have reason to believe you have not, youd understand the problem both myself and others have with the fact spaa can literally run out of ammo before shooting down even 1

I have faced them, but sure continue to think else wise.

I disagree. I think bombers aren’t as tough as a few of you keep reiterating. I’ve been taking them out with engine fires.

Pilot snipes are a very good option too.

But alas, you see - HE doesn’t have a problem - so nobody else can have either. Proper stronk logic that would make Baldrick glow with pride.

It’s like a man who’s deaf in the middle of a rock concert. Everyone around him is getting a very different experience to him…

Considering I’m a meh pilot given I play on controller (which is not as precise as M&K aiming, where you can point and click) but even so, if I can down them, you can too.

Funny you mentioned in game chat, but I have it set to all lol.

So given how often you are ‘downing them all the time’ - this would presumably explain why you are on average getting a 0.4 K/D in the F-2G? Or the FW-190D-13… also 0.4 K/D.

For someone who is ‘downing them’ you aren’t actually killing very much are you?..

(All publicly available info by the way.)

View UniqueScorpions@live’s Statistics

My stats:

Your stats:

CatUwU:

Rennie:

My stats are likely a bit worse due to my wanting to fly bombers I’m Arcade / Realistic / Simulator
But just based purely on what I’m seeing, you all out preform me.

How is it I can kill these “problem” bombers according to you lot, but you cannot?
Are you stat padding? Or did you hunt bombers for free kills before?
Because now I’m curious.

You AREN’T killing bombers though - are you?

Otherwise you’d have more kills in your fighters wouldn’t you…

Publicly available btw ;)

Nice lie about the KDrs, especially on the F2G

I kill bombers both buffed and pre-buffed. I have stats that’s also higher than yours, and I still think bomber dm is hogwash.

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Any person with 2 braincells would acknowledge taking 9 missiles or hundreds of HE shells to kill a single bomber is too much.