7.5 would do great
Having such an obvious outlier in some aspects (in this case armor) at a br where it doesnt struggle anymore in full uptiers surely will be good for all the vehicles that will then be full uptiered into it.
50% of the threads could just be closed rightaway cause its obvious there was only a single thought behind it and 0 braincells were working on thinking about the possible outcomes…
Oh, btw. T-55am1 is 9.0 (the maus cant see it unless youre one of the geniuses that plays it in a 8.0 lineup)
The m60a1 doesnt have apfsds but apds with less flat pen than the maus’s fk all apcbc
and the first chieftain with apfsds is also not 8.7. It is the chieftain mk 10 at 9.3
If youre (OP obviously in this case, not @MiGoon_Fox-3 )about to pointlessly rant about a vehicle that you struggle to do well in in full uptiers (because it is very ill suited for uptiers) at least get your facts about those full uptiers right. Or try to not prove that youre uptiering it even more with your own lineup.
Also:
yeahhhhh ok…Theres literally nothing that is correct in that statement but the name of the vehicle.
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Personally, I dont play Maus, But in my opinion it should get to 7.0 BR which it will be suitable.
I Destroy maus tanks sometimes, they are not impossible to destroy, but i also noticed them getting uptiered alot.
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The logical compromise is 7.7, your entire basis is uptiers. Sounds like you want to drive around and not worry about being killed suggesting anything lower.
The T32/IS3 gets one cannon you get 2 with HEAT reload on a 75mm of 5 secs per round. I can tell you it’s extremely easy to kill those 6.7 lineups with it.
Overall, the answer to your suggestion is no.
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We setting the reputation of German mains back years with this one 🗣️🔥🔥
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I think the solution is BR decompression.
Currently we are in a BR hell.
Go and try to play 6.7, somehow it’s always 7.7
Go play 7.7, somehow it’s always 8.7
Go play 8.3 and you will literally always see 9.3 vehicles(which is a crazy leap in tech)
How the hell can every BR range always be uptiered? How is it that the BRs are not spread equally across teams in a mix nation match maker? Your tell me one team has much more at the top of the BR range then the other? That’s insane!
We need at least 14.0-15.0 for ground matches.
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All of the ww2 stuff that flights mostly cold war stuff just feels stupid to play
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With 6.0 vehicles? I severely doubt that.
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You do realise matchmaker just says at most 4 people of top BR in a match. The rest is just whatever. So if a lot of people play 7.7, for example 50 people in queue and a lot less play 8.7, like 10 people in queue. The matchmaker will just make a 8.7 game with most of the teams being 7.7.
It really is not that complicated. The uptiered people will always be more numerous than downtiered because there is a limit for top BR but no limit for bottom BR in matches.
Except that’s not how it works.
Go play a 8.3 match.
You gonna quickly see the entire enemy team is composed of 9.3-9.0 and some 8.7s
This is exactly why it was removed. It’s literally impossible to balance. It wont move and it shouldnt move
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But it is in fact exactly how it works. The only limit is top BR everything else gets filled randomly it seems. Or maybe by wait time. I’ve had many matches at fifferent BRs that had like 2 top BR players and the rest half 1.0 lower and the other half 0.7 lower.
If you queue for 8.3 and the game makes one 8.3 and one 9.3 match both with lets say 20 players. You would have a 4/20 or 1/5 chance to be in the 4 top BR for the 8.3 match and maybe a 10-15/20 or 1/2 to 3 /4 chance to be the bottom BR in the 9.3 match. Is that so hard to understand?
“I must have my Wunderwaffe unkillable and live up to Nazi propaganda”
yeah no, Maus has far too much armour to go down in BR, even stuff that can pen it frontally, take a very long time to kill having to chew through the crew 1 or 2 at a time at which point you’re not unlikely to be shot by an ally of the maus
there isnt a 6.0 capable of harming maus frontally that isn’t heavily flawed, all are either casemates, or made out of glass, and would easily die to even the 75mm
its better to have a vehicle unplayable, than a whole BR range unplayable due to 1 vehicle
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As a German main… no.
That’s not how it works and your misunderstanding what I’m saying.
Sometimes a team will have more top tier vehicles than the others. Sometimes your team will have only 8.3s and 8.7s while the enemy team has 9.3s/9.0s
I’ve seen it so many times. It also happens in air battles.
You’re essentially asking it for being a overpowered vehicle, at battle rating 7.0? The problem isn’t battle rating 6.7 vehicles to face the Maus, it is vehicles from battle rating 6.3 and below. M-51 is the least of the problems, it has high tier-grade cannon in a Sherman platform, that’s why it’s so low. The only Maus’ disadvantage I see is the gun handling, it wins in everything else regard by punching power and armor thickness, you’re just coping by the fact that something might have a minimal advantage like gun elevation degrees, traverse speed and reload time. Never going to be any lower than battle rating 7.7 I am pretty sure about that. I’m a pretty average player and I’ve managed to achieve 3.11KD on the Maus. It’s a good vehicle.
What a fair comparison, IS-3 versus Maus. Just donk a 75 mm HEAT on its tracks and cannon and finish it off by a good placed shot. If the distance is creating a disadvantage keep shooting smoke countermeasures and close the distance, that’s how the Maus work. Now do this same logic and apply to the much more worse T32 Heavy Tank. Maus at battle rating 7.7 is very much playable, the fact that it faces battle rating 8.7 vehicles is just consequence of how good it can be. And in case you’re not updated, most vehicles that created an issue for everyday Maus gameplay were moved to battle rating 9.0 or above like the T-55AM-1, T-55AMD-1, M60A3 TTS and Chieftain Mk.10. The only vehicles you might find issues facing is the AMX-30B2 if the player using it has good knowledge of the vehicles’ strengths and weakenesses.
Start using quotes for the specific thing you reply to then.
Whoch is exactly what I said. The only thing that is set in stone in the MM is the fact that there can be AT MOST 4 TOP BR vehickes in a match and no more. You can have 0 top BR players for all the MM cares.
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Which is dumb, when we have mixed nation match making.
Why should we have a disproportionate amount of BR across 2 teams especially when we have mixed nation match making?
One team has 4 9.3s and the other doesn’t? THEN SEND 2 GUYS TO THE OTHER TEAM.
I don’t know why you are having a hard time understanding my issue.
Just as a reminder this is the “death” vehicle that we are talking about, while also being one of the most played 7.7…
heavy tanks get most of their “BR points” from their armor, of course they will suffer on uptiers, such as the T10M is a bully on downtiers and bullied on uptiers, every heavy in the game is pretty bad on uptiers (other then the 279)