With the F-86K and other F-86s being significantly outclassed by every other aircraft in the sky, these bricks are slow, have horrendously bad guns and have terrible rudders causing inefficient gun platforms, the worst of all being the F-86K and F-86 F-40 how on earth are these two at 9.0? The K is a brick with low muzzle velocity on the guns, and the F-40 is a brick with rounded corners (ever so slightly more maneuverable) with easy to lead impossible to aim .50 cals that are about as effective as .22 LR.
The solution to this is to put the F-86K to 8.3 (or 8.7 if we don’t want to make it too good), and along with a 2 BR step drop for all in the Sabre series.
“Oh but they have AIM-9Bs” Third worst air to air missile in the game aside from the Firestreak and Falcon, not to mention they are already at 8.0 on a much better fighter, or with four of them on a significantly better aircraft. Point is irrelevant
The starfighter isnt even that good. It’s actually so comical that its so high, despite the fact that it is way too fast. Removing it from the game is the best option
Bruh what? A jet that single handedly can dictate a game is not that good? It sure is tedious and boring to play, but a player with half of a braincell can just completly avoid any and all danger and kill half of the lobby
True.
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Generally one of the fastest non after burning jets at their BRs.
.50s can be bad. Rudder certainly isnt though.
86K might not be a legacy sabre, but its too quick for any lower BR + it has 9b
The F40 has 9b, on top of longer wings and slats. Its the 2nd best sabre lol.
its the first or 2nd best turning sabre btw.
No plane at 8.0 that carries missiles is a better fighter than any sabre.
In order, the best sabres (in plane performance)
CL13B,F40,13A,F2,F35/30/25,A5/CL13mk4
I have the plane. I’m trying to spade it. The guns are God awful, all they like to do is “hit” and no damage. The afterburner is ok but the price you pay for it (btw, it’s subsonic even w/ afterburner in a dive) is an extreme lack of manueverability, which is really damaging. It gets 2x Aim 9Bs, which, no offense, but big whoop. They are 9Bs. When you can’t turn they don’t do much at all.
The way I view it is the F-86K is the same BR as the F-11F, is as maneuverable as it, has worse guns, less missiles, and is slower.
Or the Sa’ar, which is as fast, as maneuverable, has better guns, and drastically better missiles (Shafrir 2s, which are just Aim-9Ds). And is also the same BR.
The F-86F-30/40s are ever so slightly slower, but honestly I’d rather .50s over the M24A1s, and they are also much more maneuverable all while retaining the missiles.
In all what I’m saying I guess is the F-86K is outclassed at its own BR by other vehicles. 8.7 certainly wouldn’t hurt it.
Just because it’s fast doesnt mean its good. Yes it’s very difficult to kill for anything other than a Sea Vixen, but anyone with a brain wont die to it.
This is in relation to the F-86K: G.91, Scimitar, Javelin is on par with it which is depressing, the worst 8.3 in the game btw, Mig-15 (and Bis/ish) MiG-17, F9F Panther, the list goes on
The F-86K has an afterburner but because of that its too fast to maneuver when used but not fast enough to outrun anyone meaning its literally pointless, as for the others any other decent 8.3s/8.7s are the same speed or faster like the Sea Vixen (I know it’s 9.0 now)
20mms are certainly worse than the .50 cals, and as to the rudder it could be because the stupid F-86K is too fast to maneuver and its locking up after 600 kph like the others
As I said in my prior post, AIM-9Bs are irrelevant, they’re not good missiles, they’re only useful against people who dont play properly and/or people who stall out in front of you, not a good way to balance them. As I said earlier in this post, F-86K is fast… just fast enough to stop itself from maneuvering, it locks up at 600/700 kph and maxes out at roughly 1080, which really isnt anything good for its BR
Thats what I mean, its better at turning than the others, but still a brick, MiG-15s clown on Sabres with ease
Sea Hawk Mk. 100, which tbf might be on par with the F-30 but still, even the 8.3 Panthers are better
Uh I think by memory my KD for the F-40 sits around about 1 as well, idk if its negative or not but its not “Very good” as you claim, its just okay, the F-40 isnt anything special, its slow but its got a great roll rate
It’s not just “fast”. It has amazing top speed, amazing acceleration, literally the best gun at this br bracket with huge ammo pool and it can easily energy trap and kill almost anything that it faces. Only real problem might be MiG-19 and MiG-21s in full uptiers.
F86k is a sabre that forgot how to turn.
It’s so much worse than an f40 or f-2 yet at a higher br.
It should definitely go down to 8.7.
Why the hell is it the same br as the cl13b mk6
Mostly because it has great energy fighting capabilities. Yeah, it’s a snooze mobile because it’s extremely tedious to actually bleed people out, but it is capable. I played Italian one while going trough that tech tree. Overall miserable experience but not due to the performance, rahter it’s just very tedious and boring playstyle
