Challenger DS may need L26 APFSDS ammunation :(

Not always true. I’ve direct hitted ammo with a shell, and it only went yellow (I wish I had recorded it)

But if you now take the T-72 TURMS, its impossible to pen that thing in the turret. YOu have to aim for its underside to do any damage. Meanwhile the Challys should be really hard to pen in the turret. but are laughablly easy

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That’s the issue with people asking for spalling, it makes hitting ammo with most of the fragments difficult.
The amount of times my Abrams ammo didn’t cook off his FAR higher than T-80 [100% cook off rate].
Cause only a few fragments hit.

@Morvran

I’ll say TURMS is in a weird place.
But is also an exception to the rule rather than the rule.

Yeah thats uh ALL the fragments going into his rack and passing through a bunch of the rounds.

And literally just cruised on and got blasted by a hellfire.

This happens to me all the time regardless of caliber. Which is either the point of russian tanks being to strong or british ammo not performing like it should - and now we are at this thread asking for the better round to maybe have a better chance at making them go boom.

I think most if not all Premiums in and around 10.0 need a review. I think some like the TURMS and the 2S38 are overperforming, WMA301 is probably too low in my opinion 9.3 is a minimum I think. But many others are need of shifting, +/- 0.3.

CHally DS Probably needs either L26 or better armour or a BR drop. their current BRs are based upon keeping them at 10.0 for premium balance, but now we;ve got Higher BRs then they could and should be shuffled a little.

Even if nothing actually changes, I think giving them that review, and speaking with the community is a needed action

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If WMA301 goes to 9.3, Rooikat 105 to 9.7, and so forth.
But I’m of the opinion that ALL light tanks are under-BR’d and scouting doesn’t give enough rewards.

Scouting doesnt even work half the time.

I dont care if the Rooikat goes up I bring it in my 10.0 lineup anyways.

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I’d like to see scouting drones added to SPAA and I think planes need recon pods. Like the Tornado

I see a number of WMA301 being brought as second spawns in 10.0+ matches and it does not struggle to get kills.

Britain gets more attention than Germany & Soviets.

Oh please try to prove this one

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as they get their FOURTH SU25

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Yeah, im not sure why he thinks that. (looks at the tornado Gr1 that was added way later than it should have been or the pile of bug reports for a number of vehicles that have been sat there for months if not years)

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me still waiting for the amraam

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Me still waiting for Red Tops to be finished

Like the red tops on the lightning?

Cause they were good for a bit now they are useless.

Yeah, and Sea-Vixen. They were okay, but not very realistic but about a year ago they were nerfed through the floor and were un-usable. They’ve gotten some minor tweaks and are now usable but bad. But still a fraction of what they should be. Its one thing waiting for a missile not even in teh game yet, but desperately needed and another waiting for a missile that ahs been in the game for years to actually be usable.

imagine giving a 9.3 jet good missiles when it now has to flight planes with all aspect missiles

Red Tops and SRAAMs should actually be All-aspect, that is one of the key areas they aren’t realistic

Note, these are all things I love.
2 TES, Black Night, 2E, Tornado F3 & IDS, Rooivalk, GR7, Bosvark.

@Morvran
Many vehicles have active bug reports depending on time & level of research needed to fix them.
Me waiting for Abrams & Leopard 2 to have their correct over-engine gun depression.
Leclerc armor.
Torque converter simulation improvements.
CITV channels for tanks with multiple thermal cameras.
Correct 23G overload of Aim-9G & H.

@MastuhWaffles
We’re not even at AMRAAM BRs yet, patience.

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Except in my experience and opinion. Its usually the soviet stuff that gets patched and fixed first.

Tornado Gr1 underperforms in ARB

Gaijin: “CM overhaul and ECMs are coming at some point in the future, no ETA”

9 months later, no changes.

Su-39/Su-25 underperforms in ARB

Gaijin: “here take the most OP IR missile that we can give you, the R-73”

barely 2 months later, changes are likely due ASAP

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i heard they made them all aspect but i have never seen on do all aspect so i dont know if thats true or not