Challenger DS may need L26 APFSDS ammunation :(

It would be nice if we received a proper reason from the developers as to why a vehicle renowned for its protection abilities, is so poorly moddeled in game.

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If it only ever see 10.3s-11 anyway, might as well give it a 10.3 shell instead of a 9.7 shell

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It has the asme pen as other 10.3s though, I’m really not getting the point of this entire thread.

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Feel free to submit suggestions for them. We don’t rule out Phimat and other pods like it in the future where possible.

Thr chally DS IS a chally Mk3. It should have the L26 present on the Mk3. Instead it was given L23A1 to artificially nerf it

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But they are in the game!!
They were tested on the Dev server - they exist and apparently they were having issues in the game.
However since then they simply just abandoned it.

That’s all the response we ever get. “we were having issues”.

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What are your thoughts on this thread, any insights to any of the points made, or a bigger picture that we aren’t taking into account?

Ammo is like that in WT though. That’s consistent.

Neglected? lolwat?
Britain gets more attention than Germany & Soviets.
There’s no such thing as armor nerfs in WT.
Challenger’s weight comes from its size, not the armor composition.

Event vehicles going to USA, Germany, Soviets, & British means more vehicles for the TECH TREE of other nations.
It’s a good thing event vehicles go there, cause it leaves more free vehicles for tech trees with less vehicles.
There’s no favoritism.

@MastuhWaffles
More wrong info.

Soviet tanks aren’t all powerful. Not sure why you two are defending them this much.
You want Leopard 2A4 going back to 10.0 as well? Or do you just want British bias?

@Morvran
“Supporting nation” isn’t a thing outside of being a wrong opinion.
I use Challenger 2 identically to T-80BVM with success.
WMA301 currently sits at a higher BR than its equivalents.
Rooikat is superior to the WMA301 in speed, size, weapon handling, and ammo. Which is why it’s 9.3 & not 9.0.
Even the Rooikat MTTD is superior in speed, size, & weapon handling.

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I believe you misunderstood my comments for you to come to this conclusion.

It is widely reported that the Challenger has in-accurate armor, and is penned too easily

Its been widely reported that soviet tanks have overperforming armor

This is the Challenger Mk2 not hte Challenger 2. These are 2 very different tanks.

if the WMA301 was on a nation like Britain, Italy, france, or japan, it would defiently be 9.7

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No, if WMA301 was for Britain it’d be 8.7 or 9.0.
There is no 9.7 tank equivalent to WMA301, as all are vastly superior.

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I’d quite confidently say that the WMA301 has superior mobility and firepower to the challegner Mk2

A round that pens 17% less, armor that’s over 90% less, a non-existent reverse speed, no gun depression [which makes the ATGM backup pointless]. So faster top speed is all it has.
I’ll take Rooikat.

As I said the Leo gets speed and magic kraut space armor.

Yeah russian tanks are all powerful. I even took out my old german KV for shits and giggles and I had to do was hold W and win.

I dont think you actually play the game. I have clips after clips of shots into RU tanks that should cripple them and it does nothing.

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Armor is similar to Chally 1s.
Congrats, you took out an M4A2 and people didn’t shoot your weak spots.
Having clips of wiffed shots proves little.
I have clips of ammo racking over 90% of T-80s I come across in the first shot.
2nd shot if I need to yeet their breech first… being the rest of the kills.
It proves nothing.

Hellcats shermans and everything else couldnt do anything to me.

I’m glad your donations to the snail have favored your RNG.

There is no doubt that Russian tanks are overperforming, and other top tier tanks are underperforming, there are too many reports and threads on the topic to ignore that there is no problem

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What RNG? Ammo explosion is only RNG is 1 fragment [or similarly small amount] hits ammo.
Ammo explosions are guaranteed if most or all your spall fragments go through the ammo.

Red dot = partial pen.
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Straight side shot into the ammo rack. Nothing.