I’d argue equally bold to assume Challenger didn’t change at all between 1998 and now.
i for one am happy, maybe with the crying of the germans theyll finally fix the challenger.
also looking at how poor the 3td is i think the 130 will be even worse. it would be another grind just to leave it out of the lineup.
Basically the same vehicle with a different gun and maybe slightly more turret armour, like will be same the as Chieftain 900
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lol do you really think germany players get preferential treatment right now?
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yeah excluding the different gun it’s just the LEP TD with cosmetic plates on the turret
Ah wait, thats why we got the Leopard 2 DM Rework, oh wait… it was announced allready 2 Yeard ago and still counting, so its save to say that it wont work this way
granted i only have the leopard 2 pl. but the differences in modeling of both the leo 2 and challenger are there. even after the rework the cr2 is worse with a lot of mistakes.
but i do think the swedish leos are better modeled than the german ones. just dont think a rework will change anything, in the case of the cr2 it didnt.
Disagree completely
rly? so the holes in the turret that were later fixed is a good job?
They didn’t even do it properly though. Yes it is slightly better now but it is still not that good comparatively even when you consider how different they are IRL.
yes the problem is we know how, for example, the mantlet is irl.
they can argue a lot of things like “we cant use it because its classified”.
ok do a mockup internally, see how much armor it gives and then just add that armor to the dmg model.
Yes. I mean put TES-H against 30mm APFSDS, it’s now cannot be killed by that round from the front or sides.
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The mantlet now catches rounds sometimes, and the higher level of armour for the mantlet and driver periscope/neck leads to less spall.
That is why much of the community say Gayjin not Gaijin. The don’t not want NATO and NATO aligned vehicles to do well. Even China still have to be nerfed just so Russia can be competent. I think that shows a lot about this Russian propaganda department and how they are still trying to hold on to the part of the Lazerpig loop of Russia Stronk memes
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Shouldn’t but after 3 shots to the side with a BMP 2M with APFSDS I die anyway, I counted the rounds after the battle, says what rounds hit the tank
yeah thats the ERA getting destroyed i imagine? Not alot we can do against that because its modelled as only ERA rather than ERA + NERA.
they can argue that because it’s true lol
so… just like i stated…
True but they give public figures which are close and not that difficult to model close to the real values. Sometime you need to make stuff up to make things better and more accurate, something Gaijin does often with Russian vehicles
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for all of like three rounds before the fridge-sized ERA blocks disintegrate and they pen anyways.
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