wanna trade? germany wants more leopards, but we arent getting them
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sorry I’m late to the party but I’m fairly sure the TD was used in the CR3 announcement and marketing stuff as the “Challenger 3” without Trophy being mounted
leaving this here
https://x.com/TotherChris/status/1996530399141302523?s=20
⚙️ We can infer a great deal from the Question on Challenger 3 (CR3) timelines made in Parliament this week.
The key phrase in the answer is 💬 “securing the necessary materials” and “mitigating risk”.
Allow me to translate.
In a new-build, materials have been sourced at this point in a programme.
“Securing materials” is a phrase that also been used in the context of Type 23 and Nimrod MRA.4 this far down a programme involving significant refurb.
It likely means Challenger 2 hulls.
The numbers and state that the hull supplier has to work with must be low and poor condition.
“Mitigating risk” is another phrase used previously, this time in context of the MAA referring to the lack of CAD documentation for MRA.4 fuselages and necessitating a Risk Reduction exercise.
It likely means the CR2 hulls are pre-CAD in the modern sense and likely sport unique differences or tolerances hull-to-hull, due to a lack of precision manufacture in the late 80’s / early 90’s era tooling.
We can combine this inference with news coming out of Curtiss-Wright on contract modifications from Rheinmetall related to the Turret Drive Servo System (TDSS).
It likely means the pre-CAD era non-precision CR2 hulls being refurbished have unique turret rings, or rings with a greater than expected tolerance, requiring individual fitting.
Personal opinion is CR3 will also need a “come to Jesus” moment of self reflection, and source a new-design / precision-built hull before we dive too far down the turret ring rabbit hole and carry on struggling with coach-built era MBT’s for the next 20-30 years.
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That is certainly a reach if I’ve seen one
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no idea, about reliability of british armor guys and there opinions.
only sharing what pops up, i didnt see the parlament thingy being shared here yet
AI ass writing style too lmao
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Yeah, that’s quite a few dashes in that statement. The writing style just seems odd overall tbh.
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The UK defence journal has been pumping out a lot of slop recently, I honestly think they’ve just started AI generating their articles
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i think this image was used to give Ajax/CR3 a fixed 6x zoom. but you see, Orion has no magnification listed therefore must be a fixed 1x sight :3
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You can tell they have added a significant amount of armor to the upper front plate. The “shoulders” above the tracks are flush on the Chally 2. So hopefully enemies will actually have to aim to pen the Chally 3 hull.
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20mm structural steel
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“20mm Structural Steel. Prove us wrong with the non existent documents that even if they did exist would land you a prison sentence for sharing them.” - Gaijin
I feel like they do this alot, with other things too.
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i wonder if the TD is going to get fixed 6x sights as well now, the report was accepted but it doesn’t look like its been corrected (yet)
It should do. Nerfing the worst Chally is always a fun thing to see.
Thales did iterate through a few different sights so it might be hard to get any confirmation as to what the TD was actually mounting, seeing as all the documents tell you what is going to be on the actual CR3 and not what was on the DSEI 2019 mockup. Like the engine.
I’ve been saying this for so long, but the devs chose to name it 3 TD because the project later became the Challenger 3 (which doesn’t really make sense).
In the files itself I believe it’s actually referred to as the Challenger 2 LEP or thereabouts which is closer than Challenger 3 TD.
The demonstrator was used in the CR3 announcement in May 2021 and was used as the CR3 demonstrator until the prototypes rolled out of the factory. The marketing material for CR3 also used the TD, such as the CR2/CR3 comparison as well as the render/drawing in this article.
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Did gaijin remove air tracking for the CR3?
So the only tank we have with a variable fused round can no longer use it to shoot down aircraft?
Ah weird not working for me right now…I will reboot the game