trophy’s probs a bolt on optional thing tbh I expect to see it come about when the tank enters its final stages or when the addon armour packages are finalised as its probs apart of some larger war kit
Plus its probs gonna be tested on Le Megatron
Knowing the UK we will have 10 and share them around ha ha
The tank is made to be fitted with Trophy, but not always fitted with it like the merkava
I believe the UK is initially buying 60 trophy systems, which can be fitted to the CR3 whenever they’re needed
They should probably buy a few more though
This is more well hidden than the competent members of the British government
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A hard kill APS system is part of the requirements set out by the MOD as part of the program. The ATDU haven’t had the tank for even 4 months yet. 1500hp is also part of the guidelines set out for the program. APS is fairly easy to bolt on and integrate into the systems of the tank as others have said and the 1500hp will be achieved with an upgraded turbo pack among other upgrades. I already said this months ago and I check back on this forum and see 50 odd replies arguing about it and saying that it’s not what’s in game
This isn’t directed at you Luque but my god you all need to read the title of the thread. the challenger 3TD in game is not what this thread is about. This thread is about the actual challenger 3. the 3TD is essentially just the 2LEP
Megatron has been retired and will be getting ready to be handed over to the tank museum. Megatron’s chassis is bent and so she cannot be upgraded to a challenger 3. I spoke to her commander at tankfest just gone in July
we will have to wait and see what the ATDU come up further down the line as they only received challenge 3 in late 2024. Between September and November time. I can’t remember which of the 3 months
Nah I ment to test the APS system on the Megatron but I guess what ever the ATDU yoinks for a future testing vehicle
What unholy things have they been doing to BEND the hull of a Challenger?
I can imagine the conversation…
‘We’re going to upgrade Megatron.’
‘Sorry Boss, we broke it. Driver Smith had a brain fart and decided to hoon around a Motocross track, jumps and all. Scared the crap out of the riders and we might have a banana-shaped hull as a result.’’
Honestly I have no idea but she’s an old girl and has gone through a lot. The gearbox testing for the new gearbox spec for challenger 3 for one. She had to pull the CRARRV as fast as she could across rough ground, there is a video on the ATDU twitter page of it
I do wish I had asked him how the hell they bent the chassis but honestly it could have just happened over time. Warped hulls could be crated over ten years of stressful testing or it might have been a single thing that did it. Regardless I am glad she is finally going to get some rest in the good hands of the tank museum
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So the government official who claimed it was 1200hp was just incorrect and it is certain to be 1500hp?
Here’s a little secret :
The british government has no idea what it’s doing most of the time.
As long as you dont’ intentionally mislead the house, you can say pretty much everything in there.
Taking that response in the HOC as gospel is… not wise.
Unfortunately gaijin don’t think like that, I wish they did
Here’s the thing, technically the engine replacement isn’t part of the CR3 programme, it’s part of the larger HAAIP programme to the most of the CR2 fleet. It’s pretty believable that the MP (who are largely just figure heads with not that much knowledge in the inner machinations of their department) would miss it.
A caveat to that though is the CR3 is missing the extra cooling from the CR2 ARVs (which do have the engine at 1500hp), so we’re probably not looking at a full 1500hp improvement.
How do we know the CR3 is missing the extra cooling?
It’s not the greatest photos in the world, but you can see the CR3 lacks the extra vents on the hull rear of the Trojan AV. This was because the army wanted to retain the towing points of the CR2 to save on new towing equipment etc
Thats interesting, it looks very similar to the rear of the Challenger 2E
However, the Challenger 3 does have improved cooling, it may just be done in a different way.
Weirdly I can’t find anywhere that says the Trojan has 1500 horsepower though.
Gaijin: we only take certain documents and a 300 word essay on why and what you want to change to improve a vehicle. word of mouth is not enough, and nor are pictures showing things to be incorrect.
Also Gaijin: Oh, this guy says it’s 1200, so it’s 1200. It’s a nerf to a British tank so thats proof enough!
why are they like this…
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The thing is, this is from a written question to the Ministry of Defense so its not answered on the spot and instead an answer is prepared with proper time. And whilst the Secretary of State for Defence answers the question he is purely just a mouthpiece for the MoD here.
Do we have confirmation regarding the presence of blowout panels in Challenger 3?