Challenger 2 Overhaul

They look great and the new camo netting on the 2F is one of the best buffs Challenger 2 has receieved in a long time.
But when you break down the stats L27A1 is not a good round and is hard to use at range with it’s sudden drop off.

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You also have the added handicap of full uptiers.

If you are spading the BN, then you will only face 12.0s which might as well be considered 13.0+ tanks.

In the 11.7s like the 2F, you stand a reasonably good chance of getting downtiers and so are actually fighting your peers in the form of the 11.0/11.3 stuff and so it doesnt feel quite so stupid

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XD.

Yeah, that will also do it. I gave up wit hthat I just made my 12.0 line up 12.0 with Gr7

Im use to from Chally DS L26 so its actually not a problem for me.

I’ve used GR7 but didnt like it compare to EFT, plus 12.0 is basically 13.0 like you said so might as well should bring my FGR4.

I don’t want to read through the entire thread.
Did this bear any fruits ?

I barely touch 12.0 because we dont have a single MBT worthy of that BR, but I also didnt see the point of trying to use 15km SAL weapons vs IRIS-T SLMs

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If it does, and thats a big if… Probably wont see any outcomes for at least a year. Its Britain after all

If i see Germans on the other side i just spam Paveway IV’s to IRIS-T’s location, usually works fine.

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If this steering change from the EldE is deployed globally, this would be really nice for Challys, let’s hope !

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It would be awesome. Was playing the Scimitar last night, it would beenfit loads from this as well

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So is the KH-38MT but that didn’t stop you from adding it. It also hasn’t lead to its removal.

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Its basically regenerative steering by the looks of it.

Challengers would benefit a lot, hopefully they implement it in near future.

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This would be great. The Challengers mostly suffer due to their really high speed loss in turns rather than their mediocre acceleration, this would help a ton.

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+1, if in this update we could get at least the larger first order ammo rack or the mobility improvements it could be awesome, i think the challys are in a stage right now that everything in them are easily improved, mobility, damage of the APFSDS, the ammorack, the haul armor,

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I was hoping the horse power buff would have gotten enough attention to make it through by now for this update, but apprently not. At least, not yet and hopefully the new Elde drive code stuff might make its way to other MBTs sooner rather than later. (so holding out hope for the next major which is only a month away

But yeah, I agree. individually, none of the buffs are really that big, but taken together… would be huge

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in addition to the changes mentioned in the main post. “Double differential steering” is something being introduced this major for the Elde.

This would be a massive benefit for all MBTs, especially the Challenger 2. Make sure to give it plenty of support:

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Guys is it me or Challengers gun breach causes massive amount of spalling?

Btw I I got my Chally 2E and finished my collection, time to get ready for sky Sabre.

Don’t remember the last time I played them, but since the hull is so weak (good luck hidding it in tiny CQB map rotation of top tier), I feel I get killed more oftenly by ammo detonation than spalling from anywhere.