Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

[AblativeKitten]

@VatnikWrangler22

The British tree, because it was actually trialed to enter service by the British army

No it wasn’t lmao. The British Army largly was dismissive and just wanted to nick the FCS for an improved Challenger 1.

@Mytho-GR1

Challenger 130mm was Rhinemetal going further then RBSL a BAE and Rhinemetal company which put a 130mm into a Challenger 2 ( The 2019 LEP to be exact which is the Challenger 3 TD in game) to show the UK what they could do with the Challenger 2

This game vehicles don’t go to nation just because they helped build it

That’s just wrong on so many levels I don’t really have the time to unwrap properly, so bullet points time.

1. the CR2 130 was a show generally what a 130mm armed MBT would look like, and test the autoloader in a rolling chassis
2. The turret was used because the new autoloader is too wide for a leopard 2 turret and it was easier to use the spare LEP turret they’d already cut the back off of to fit the new 120mm ammo rack.
3. Yes, yes they do lmao. Germany already has their export Leo 2 variants, the Tam series, and the DF105. And Britian has its export Vickers, Cents, and Chieftain. Stuff goes to the country that made it, if the importer doesn’t exist in game.

@duckmartin

Nope… Britain will be getting it end off discussion !!

We really don’t need it, nor do we have much of a claim to it.
This is much like the US trying to claim the Skink cause it’s based on a Sherman.

@Godvana

The Challenger 130 mm was a test bed for the future use of the 130 mm L51 gun, which is planned to be adopted on future German tanks. The turret had to be extensively modified in order to fit the 130 mm gun and its autoloader. It was already in development long before the formation of RBSL.

This^ again they used a CR2 cause they had a spare LEP cause the MOD gave them two CR2s in case they broke something during the modifications.

[duckmartin]

Does anyone here remember on the old forms we had this same sort of discussion with a German main who was looking to try a get a challenger 2 in the German tech tree ??

[Mytho-GR1]

this argument doesn’t matter anyway as it will go to UK and no one else

No amount of arguing will change that

[Godvana]

Do you have a statement by Gaijin on that?

[Godvana]

Rheinmetall 130 mm Demonstrator - Future Tanknology

poll [130 mm 1] In the 2010s Russia would unveil their new T-14 Armata MBT which was a radical departure from previous Soviet and Russian tank design and promised even more protection than ever before. To make matters worse for Western countries, the widely used 120 mm smoothbore gun was approaching the limits in the potential size of its ammunition so a new solution was needed. This lead the original creator of the 120 mm smoothbore, Rheinmetall, to create a successor, which would become the …

I made a suggestion for Germany and it was accepted with no problems.

[duckmartin]

I have a statement… why do yous want a challenger 2 130mm TD in the German tech tree ?? Why not just ask for another leopard 2 like the A8 are something are if your just looking for something with a bigger gun the KF51 ??

[Mytho-GR1]

and i can make a suggestion for a Canadian Leopard to the British tree doesn’t mean it will get it

[Godvana]

Because it could be years before we see the introduction of the Panther to War Thunder. The Challenger 130 could be added now however.

[duckmartin]

Not really look how quick challenger 3 Technology Demonstrator was added !!

[Godvana]

No, you can only make a suggestion for a Canadian Leopard to go to Canada. If you tried to make it for Britain the suggestion would simply be rejected.

[Godvana]

Panther is a lot more advanced than the Challenger 3 demonstrator though.

[duckmartin]

It Can still be added only it will have artificial nerves like the 2a7 and challenger 3 Technology Demonstrator !!

[Godvana]

I don’t think Gaijin does artificial nerfs to tanks, unless you count reload rate. Any nerfs are down to bugs or Gaijin being Gaijin.

There is still a lot of tanks to come before the Panther so I don’t think we will see it for some time.

[花谱_kaf]

@AblativeKitten

The Vickers Mk.7 we have in game was a british project, by a british company, goes to britain
The CR2 130 is a german project, by a german company, ergo should go to germany.
Simple as.

So when will the British BAE company’s CV9030/35/40/50/120 join the British tree?

[DevilO6]

Cr 130 talk, huh.

[FlyingOstridge]

Eventually. Along with the M8 Light tank.

BAE Systems M8 Expeditionary Light Tank: 25 Year's Strong

[John_Sneeeeeeeew]

Gaijin dont care where the suggestion aays it should go, they put it where they see fit, which they have said multiple times now.

Germans seem to get really annoyed when brits and canadians ask for a leopard, but then germams turn around and ask for a Cr2.

[John_Sneeeeeeeew]

Rheinmetall 130 mm Demonstrator - Future Tanknology

Please note this has already been suggested in the UK Area

[Godvana]

@John_Sneeeeeeeew

Germans seem to get really annoyed when brits and canadians ask for a leopard, but then germams turn around and ask for a Cr2.

This is not a Challenger 2:

Just as this is not a Leopard 2:

[John_Sneeeeeeeew]

It is a Challenger 2 turret and hull with a new gun and some blocks on the front.

Just like how this is still a matilda with a new gun